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    If these genetic food modifers were so smart they would produce a donut that caused you to pee non-skin irritating gasoline as a side effect.
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    Some of you don't understand the difference between GM and 'pedigree' foods - which is rather worrying me. Are people so utterly uncaring about their diet?

    It's no good blaming the farmers once you're dying of cancer ten years down the line, you know! The idea is to know what you're eating now and take responsibility for yourselves.

    Anyway, GM is stuff that's been messed with at a genetic level. It's not cattle bred to be heavier or corn that's a funny colour (that's a virus in the corn, by the way, and is perfectly natural). GM's soya oil that's had frog DNA added to stop certain diseases of the crop, or whatever, and is utterly un-natural. It could never exist in nature at all.

    Remember what happened when people bought cheap meat and then got vCJD? That was down to scientists saying cattle could be fed blowback meat from diseased sheep - sure as hell not natural.

    You need to educate yourselves, folks. I mean it, for your own sakes

    By the way, the "it'll feed the starving" argument is crap. They can't afford GM seed, just like they can't afford AIDS drugs, water and so on. GM is not and won't ever be available to help those starving to death as all the rights seem to be privately owned money spinners
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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyvop
    Not only food but women also.
    GM women? Where do you get them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazell B
    Some of you don't understand the difference between GM and 'pedigree' foods - which is rather worrying me. Are people so utterly uncaring about their diet?

    It's no good blaming the farmers once you're dying of cancer ten years down the line, you know! The idea is to know what you're eating now and take responsibility for yourselves.

    Anyway, GM is stuff that's been messed with at a genetic level. It's not cattle bred to be heavier or corn that's a funny colour (that's a virus in the corn, by the way, and is perfectly natural). GM's soya oil that's had frog DNA added to stop certain diseases of the crop, or whatever, and is utterly un-natural. It could never exist in nature at all.

    Remember what happened when people bought cheap meat and then got vCJD? That was down to scientists saying cattle could be fed blowback meat from diseased sheep - sure as hell not natural.

    You need to educate yourselves, folks. I mean it, for your own sakes

    By the way, the "it'll feed the starving" argument is crap. They can't afford GM seed, just like they can't afford AIDS drugs, water and so on. GM is not and won't ever be available to help those starving to death as all the rights seem to be privately owned money spinners
    I concur.

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    This is a real problem though.

    It is good of monsanto to say they won't prosecute the farmers for growing their intellectual property, unlike they have in some other areas of the world. (sarcasm)

    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/gm...0924-g4s9.html

    GM canola found outside containment area

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    September 25, 2009
    GENETICALLY modified canola has already escaped from its containment areas in southern NSW, just over a year after a moratorium on growing the crop was lifted by the State Government.
    Canola matching a genetically altered strain patented by the agribusiness giant Monsanto was found growing beside the Riverina Highway, and apparently at other locations, near Jerilderie.
    Many farmers who decided not to grow Monsanto's modified ''Roundup Ready'' canola are concerned that their commercial status as GM-free producers is compromised, and believe the apparent biosecurity breach may threaten export earnings.
    ''The problem is that farmers will end up growing GM canola whether we want to or not,'' said Jerilderie farmer Gay Marshall, who found the stray GM plants near the farm she runs with her husband Dick.
    She sent them for testing at a commercial laboratory.
    When the moratorium on the GM strain was lifted in March 2008, the Government promised the strain would not get mixed in with the traditional crop.
    ''GM canola will be segregated from non-GM canola - people will know what they are eating,'' the Primary Industries Minister, Ian Macdonald, said at the time.
    However, the biggest grain handler, Graincorp, announced in May that it would be mixing the crops together. This means that processed foods that use canola oil, including many types of biscuits, potato chips and baby food, will soon contain some genetically modified material.
    It is regarded as safe for human consumption by the Commonwealth Office of the Gene Technology Regulator.
    But farmers who were planning to retain their GM-free status are now concerned that there is no way to stop GM seeds getting into their fields.
    Asked if the discovery constituted a biosecurity breach, Mr Macdonald said in a statement that stray roadside plants were easily destroyed by slashing them down or with herbicides.
    ''This everyday occurrence is taken into account when industry standards and protocols are developed for supply chains,'' Mr Macdonald said.
    Responsibility for managing roadside weeds fell to the Roads and Traffic Authority, he said.
    Asked if contamination of non-GM crops would affect exports, he said: ''This issue is irrelevant to export opportunities because there are established markets for both GM canola and conventional canola.''
    Monsanto's statement to the Herald on the issue contained some of the same phrases used by Mr Macdonald.
    A spokeswoman for Monsanto, Honi McNaughton, said that although the company had sued farmers overseas for producing crops with its patented genes after their fields were contaminated, that would not happen in Australia.
    ''We're not going to be pursuing anybody for growing a couple of plants in their fields,'' she said. ''Those people we have acted against in the past are people that have illegally saved seeds and used it without paying us for our intellectual property.''
    The non-GM group Biological Farmers of Australia said experience with GM canola in Canada showed that within a few years the majority of the canola crop would be completely interlinked with GM material.
    The Network of Concerned Farmers said there were reports of modified canola taking root in wheat and other crops.
    ''It was always inevitable that there would be contamination by GM canola once the moratorium was lifted,'' a spokeswoman, Juliet McFarlane, said. ''The idea that we were going to get a choice about growing GM canola was always a joke.''
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    People wonder why I don't like and don't trust large coporations. Their GM modified crops escape into a non GM field and they have the hide to prosecute you!!!!! What a joke.

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    The theory behind GM food is very appealing - more disease resistant crops that can grow using less water etc etc. In practice, there hasn't been anywhere near enough information released about them. I'm not bothered about eating them though, I figure I've been eating non-organic pesticide-laden food all my life and it's done me no harm so far!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camelopard
    This is a real problem though.

    It is good of monsanto to say they won't prosecute the farmers for growing their intellectual property, unlike they have in some other areas of the world. (sarcasm)

    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/gm...0924-g4s9.html

    GM canola found outside containment area

    BEN CUBBY

    September 25, 2009
    GENETICALLY modified canola has already escaped from its containment areas in southern NSW, just over a year after a moratorium on growing the crop was lifted by the State Government.
    Canola matching a genetically altered strain patented by the agribusiness giant Monsanto was found growing beside the Riverina Highway, and apparently at other locations, near Jerilderie.
    Many farmers who decided not to grow Monsanto's modified ''Roundup Ready'' canola are concerned that their commercial status as GM-free producers is compromised, and believe the apparent biosecurity breach may threaten export earnings.
    ''The problem is that farmers will end up growing GM canola whether we want to or not,'' said Jerilderie farmer Gay Marshall, who found the stray GM plants near the farm she runs with her husband Dick.
    She sent them for testing at a commercial laboratory.
    When the moratorium on the GM strain was lifted in March 2008, the Government promised the strain would not get mixed in with the traditional crop.
    ''GM canola will be segregated from non-GM canola - people will know what they are eating,'' the Primary Industries Minister, Ian Macdonald, said at the time.
    However, the biggest grain handler, Graincorp, announced in May that it would be mixing the crops together. This means that processed foods that use canola oil, including many types of biscuits, potato chips and baby food, will soon contain some genetically modified material.
    It is regarded as safe for human consumption by the Commonwealth Office of the Gene Technology Regulator.
    But farmers who were planning to retain their GM-free status are now concerned that there is no way to stop GM seeds getting into their fields.
    Asked if the discovery constituted a biosecurity breach, Mr Macdonald said in a statement that stray roadside plants were easily destroyed by slashing them down or with herbicides.
    ''This everyday occurrence is taken into account when industry standards and protocols are developed for supply chains,'' Mr Macdonald said.
    Responsibility for managing roadside weeds fell to the Roads and Traffic Authority, he said.
    Asked if contamination of non-GM crops would affect exports, he said: ''This issue is irrelevant to export opportunities because there are established markets for both GM canola and conventional canola.''
    Monsanto's statement to the Herald on the issue contained some of the same phrases used by Mr Macdonald.
    A spokeswoman for Monsanto, Honi McNaughton, said that although the company had sued farmers overseas for producing crops with its patented genes after their fields were contaminated, that would not happen in Australia.
    ''We're not going to be pursuing anybody for growing a couple of plants in their fields,'' she said. ''Those people we have acted against in the past are people that have illegally saved seeds and used it without paying us for our intellectual property.''
    The non-GM group Biological Farmers of Australia said experience with GM canola in Canada showed that within a few years the majority of the canola crop would be completely interlinked with GM material.
    The Network of Concerned Farmers said there were reports of modified canola taking root in wheat and other crops.
    ''It was always inevitable that there would be contamination by GM canola once the moratorium was lifted,'' a spokeswoman, Juliet McFarlane, said. ''The idea that we were going to get a choice about growing GM canola was always a joke.''
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    People wonder why I don't like and don't trust large coporations. Their GM modified crops escape into a non GM field and they have the hide to prosecute you!!!!! What a joke.
    Yeah that's one of the most outrageous things that's ever happened. Sadly it's been going on for years though

    As for the effects of food it has been said that people nowadays don't decompose as quickly when put in the ground as our ancestors did because of all the preservatives in food these days. Could be an urban myth though....
    Rule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.

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    I don't really see what the problem is with GM food.
    Time is the enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emporer_k
    I don't really see what the problem is with GM food.
    THe problem is that we don't know what the problems may be.
    Rule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theugsquirrel
    GM women? Where do you get them?
    from Hollywood. :
    Defend mediocrity... because excelence is just too hard to achieve. :p

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