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22nd July 2009, 01:52 #1
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JPM
I never watched much NASCAR until Juan went over. I can't stand the short tracks, but am getting some enjoyment watching the longer ovals. I remember Juan as the guy that would try a pass anywhere on the track in F1. Love him or hate him he kept things interesting. Now he is consistently qualifying ahead of mid-pack and methodically finishing in the top10-20 I never thought I'd be into NASCAR But that's what you can find me doing on Sunday afternoons. Although I do tend to fall to sleep by about the 5th caution
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22nd July 2009, 04:15 #2
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Here... let me help you back.
http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...splay.php?f=96
Ayrton Senna, Legend. R.I.P.
\"If you no longer go for a gap that exists, you are no longer a racing driver. Because we are competing. We are competing to win. And the main motivation to all of us is to compete for a victory. It is not to come third, fourth, fifth or sixth. I race to win\".
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22nd July 2009, 19:08 #3
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Juan Pablo
From what i saw of it ,Juan Pablo got married,had a child ,and THEN decided he wanted out of F1.Usually its her indoors that says "Be Careful today". That causes the slowdown.Its the young single guys that GO FOR IT !
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22nd July 2009, 20:47 #4
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Originally Posted by Tazio
Cant believe you dont like the short tracks though, all the races are fun aren't they?
Thanks to Nascar I also really want sears point/infineon in F1, what a great track!
as much as Id like to see JPM back in F1, Id rather see him do well in NASCAR first, If he became a star over there and then came back to F1, maybe more americans will be converted to F1 like we were to NASCAR?
Id doubt he'd come back now though, he looks like he's enjoying it too much over there, and I still think he has 'too much pride' to come back after he left. I hope Im wrong though.Congratulations Sebastian Vettel. Champion of the season of seasons.
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23rd July 2009, 00:36 #5
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What JPM represents is that in this day and age of specialisation he emulates Clark, Andretti, Gurney et al by jumping into a race car, any race car and still be, at the very least, be competitive and be able to run with the front runners.
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23rd July 2009, 01:19 #6
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Great thread Taz.
I'm not a NASCAR guy really, but was a great supporter of JPM in Formula 1 and remain a supporter of him in whatever motorsport he chooses to try. He was one of the few people in recent F1 times to best the worlds best drivers in equal or lesser cars, and seems to have done so a few times in the NASCAR world as well.
We need more JPMs in racing. To me he's one of the people that have made racing exciting again. A man with the heart and soul of a real racer. Sure there were times he forced a bad move, but there were just as many times me made brilliant moves!
As a side note, a couple years back we went to the NASCAR race in Richmond. JPM had a fairly good race, moving up a number of position until he wasted the car in a wreck, bouncing down the back straight with the car on fire until he jumped out. Our seats were not much past where he ended up.
Where was I? Behind the stands getting a funnel cake for my wife! It was the best JPM performance I missed first hand!
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23rd July 2009, 01:36 #7
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Originally Posted by wedge
Clark, Gurney and Andretti won, consistently.......Gurney never won a WDC but gave Clark a run for his money in a few races, but still won or lead everywhere he raced.
Andretti makes even Clark look a distant second, when it comes to competing in different forms of racing, be it dirt tracks, stock cars as in Daytona 500 1967 victory--JPM has never won a major speedway race and Clark never tried, but Andretti showed up and took it, a wdc title (none for JPM despite plenty of opportunities), might have won lemans with some better luck, but took a number of 12 hour endurance races,
And quite over looked when a certain canadian showed uo as a rookie and took pole in the williams (the dominant car that year) was the Andretti before him enterred his first f1 race, took pole, and probably would have won as he looked to being able to take stewart back for the lead, until the car nose splitOnly the dead know the end of war. Plato:beer:
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23rd July 2009, 02:34 #8
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Originally Posted by MarkabillyMay the forza be with you
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23rd July 2009, 02:57 #9
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Montoya exited f1 because Mclaren booted him.
And he understood that after Mclaren it was downhill from there.
He resides in NASCAR where he still has to learn to win with the big boys and he can weigh sixty pounds more [he really is a very podgy little fellah these days] and it counts for nothing.
Getting married and having kids does not promote a decline in f1 performance - just that being an f1 driver is SO much fun, its towards the end of a career that many drivers decide to "settle down".
These days drivers are generally younger than was the case in previous decades anyway.Jense - Mclaren MP4-25 :DMonzaOne :D
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23rd July 2009, 05:33 #10
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Originally Posted by Saint DevoteMay the forza be with you
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