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17th June 2009, 10:40 #1Senior Member
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Digital Britain my foot.
Yesterday the government released their long-awaited report into the future of media and communications in the UK, and I have to say it was pretty depressing reading. The main proposals are:
A 50p per month tax on phone lines to pay for better rural broadband access, with the aim of 2Mbps broadband for all. When BT was privatised they did nothing to expand the network, even when the profits were rolling in at an embarassing level. Now that times are tough, the public is expected to pay (once again) to rectify the failures of private companies.
The idea that 2Mbps is an aspirational service is pathetic, we should be looking at a fast fibre network as an investment in the same way the Victorians regarded the sewers or the railways. A sensible investment now would reap benefits for decades to come, whereas a 2M service will be outdated before it's finished.
Digital Radio switchover by 2015. National and many local FM services would be switched off, meaning that millions of FM radios would be redundant. Now, DAB has been a failure, with pathetic sound quality and poor sales of receivers. Indeed, it's already old technology, with DAB+ already the standard in many counties. It was relatively easy to switch to digital TV, with cheap and plentiful set-top boxes, but how to I adapt the dozen or so radios in my house and cars?
Filesharing to be cut by 70%. Impossible to measure, as nobody knows the true extent of activity at the moment. It will fall to ISPs to police this, raising questions as to how they know whether the packet I'm downloading is a completely legal open-source application or a pirate copy of an album. Deep packet inspection is illegal under RIPA, so unless there's a change in that law the ISPs will be reduced to guesswork. Add to this that the only remedy at the moment is to refer "illegal" fire sharers to the rights holder who has the option of suing through the civil courts - an expensive process with no guarantee of success. Even if a record company could prove beyond doubt that my IP address downloaded their album, they'd have to prove it was me and not someone else with access to my connection. This is such a short-sighted policy which does nothing to address why people download.
The licence fee to be used to help fund ITV local news. Why? ITV are a dinosaur who are destined to go the same way as Woolworths because of their chronic failure to adapt to the modern era. They plead poverty in the same week they announce a £1.2M p.a. deal for Cheryl Cole, on a programme which spectaularly failed to monetise the populatity of Susan Boyle. They've shelved long-tail dramas which might actually make them money to concentrate on short term reality shows to which they don't own the rights; cut back on local news while wasting money on Friends Reunited, and now public money is going to bail them out. What happens if they start making a profit again? Would that money go towards reducing the licence fee? Don't be absurd.
In short, this was a brilliant opportunity to ensure that our broadcast and communications industry would be in rude health for decades to come, but instead its tinkering at the margins and dithering about all the important stuff. Utterly pathetic.Useful F1 Twitter thingy: http://goo.gl/6PO1u
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I agree 2Mbps is low. But tell that to the people who are currently on 56k and they won't think that at all! It's alright saying everyone should have 100Mbps or nothing at all, for many people, it's just going to end up as nothing at all!
The digital radio thing caught me by surprise. It's widely thought that DAB has bascially been a complete failure, and is only being propped up by the BBC as most commecial operators have deserted it. It's easy for politicians to look at TV and think the same things can be applied to radio - they cannot, it's a completely different medium.
The sound quality is not as good as FM and the reception is not as good as FM, and as you say the number of FM receivers is absolutely enormous, we're talking pretty much very car, van, and lorry in the country, not to mention those visiting from abroad. Clock radios, walkmans, mobile phones, the list is very long.
And they expect them to all be converted to digital radio? They are living in a dreamland. Plus the fact is that FM radio is already very good quality and reaches a large area and in most reception areas you have a choice of around 10 different stations, which is more than enough to be getting on with!
Any attempt to take the likes of Radio 1/2/4 off FM and put them to DAB only will see the failure of those radio stations pretty much immediately!Please 'like' our facebook page http://www.facebook.com/motorsportforums
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17th June 2009, 12:29 #3
Good rants Dave
You should write to the Daily Mail about it
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Seriously though I agree with what you are saying. BT struggle to get me 3meg broadband in a fairly built up area (supposed to be up to 8mb). Digital TV is unwatcheable when you have any amount of interferance so radio will be shocking (especially if everyone needs to spend £100 on a new headunit for the car).
I can't even be bothered to start on ITV but any station who cuts away from a tense FA Cup match in extra time should suffer serious consequences. It also doesn't help that the only stuff worth watching on ITV is football and they decide to punish viewers with the pointless ramblings of David Pleat who is like a s**tter version of Graham Taylor.You're so beige, you probably think this signature is about someone else.
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17th June 2009, 14:34 #4Senior Member
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There was a guy on TV this morning saying "It's only 50p a month" and I half agreed with him at the time, but now you've mentioned the millions made in the past by BT I'm seeing the nay-sayers' point!
Anyway, the cash will end up being used elsewhere as it almost always is. They grab a 'tax' for a specific thing then it is swallowed by the general government pot to pay for other things. Look at all the green taxes that we were promised would pay for environmental issues ...... where are they now?"The Jaguar's going cheap"
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17th June 2009, 15:09 #5Senior Member
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With regard to broadband, I'm especially annoyed by ISPs during the early 21st century flogging their service on the basis that one could use it for watching movies, downloading music, and moving large files about at high speed - all for a flat fee.
Now that people have the temerity to do this, even using perfectly legal services such as YouTube or iPlayer, they've realised it's costing them money and are crying to the government for help.
Imagine how toasty warm your house would be all winter, and how warm you pool would be all summer if gas companies had used the same pricing model as ISPs.
Anyway, back to the 50p levy. I already subsidise rural phone customers. I can see the exchange from my roof, yet my connection fee and line rental is exactly the same as somebody who lives out in the sticks and needs miles of extra cabling to reach them. I have no problem with this, but it seems unreasonable that telecom companies want me to pay for their lack of investment in upgrading those lines for a useful broadband service.Useful F1 Twitter thingy: http://goo.gl/6PO1u
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As for converting your car radio

http://www.pure.com/products/product...oduct=VL-60905
Works really well. I've been using ours in Carolines car for the last couple of weeks. Reception is a little patchy as I've not installed it properly (it's going in the 500 when it arrives) but it really is great as I can get a much wider variety of stations in the car and it's clearer than FM. Tis also upgradeable to DAB+
As for your other points they're very much true. Jan Yeo, how are you watching your TV if it cuts out? We used to have Sky and it got to the point where a good deal of stations were unwatchable and even strong stations would drop out in bad weather. A new dish and Sky+ box later and it works flawlessly even in high winds and when we get low cloud as well!
BT need to stop being a bunch of fools and roll fiber out to the doorstep and the government need to help too. Fiber to the cabinet is a halfarsed measure and still doesn't help with how bad copper can be. What if my copper line is utterly crap and I can only get 4mb when I should be able to get 40?
Oh and are they going to upgrade the backbone networks as well? Errrr no....
Rule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.
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17th June 2009, 23:04 #7I pretty much don't watch my TV, although we do have one in the lounge which works alright. I've taken now to watching everything on the computer, both BBC and ITV offer a live internet feed which is alright and anything else I catch on iPlayer etc. Although TBH beyond the motorsport I rarely watch anything at all
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22nd June 2009, 19:18 #8Senior Member
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Hate to point out the bleeding obvious, but you're wrong in a way. Every time you ring out, wherever to, the miles of lines are needed. Just as if somebody from out in the sticks calls you.
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Not a subsidy in the same way as this new version."The Jaguar's going cheap"
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22nd June 2009, 19:28 #9Senior Member
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Telephone calls
How many on here use Skype ,like me?
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22nd June 2009, 20:33 #10Senior Member
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I've used Skype in the past.
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