BRABHAM! The old band really IS getting back together!

[ArrowsFA1]

These "revelations" of new team entries are really starting to sound suspicious to me....

Perhaps. Particularly where the likes of March and Brabham are concerned. Is it a coincidence that the names are closely associated with Mosley and Ecclestone?

[V12]

Perhaps. Particularly where the likes of March and Brabham are concerned. Is it a coincidence that the names are closely associated with Mosley and Ecclestone?

Very good point!

Assuming on the 1% chance that it is not just hot air, I wouldn't like to see this. This is different to March, who IIRC will still be headed up by the same guy who owned the name the last time they were in F1 in 1992, or Lola who were not only legitimately bought, but probably saved from extinction by their current owner. I'm all for traditional names in the sport (and lets face it, they *were* a loss), but only if it's done in the right way, with some sort of "link" to the former outfit.

If David, Geoff or Gary fancied a shot at running an F1 team, that would be different

[Sonic]

I'm sorry, but I can't see names like Brabham or March being any kind of serious teams in the making. I've got a strange feeling someone is joking here. Maybe Max asked those guys to enter their "teams" for F1 to make his negotiating position with FOTA stronger?

I wouldn't be surprised. In fact now you've mentioned it I think its almost certain!

[N. Jones]

Perhaps. Particularly where the likes of March and Brabham are concerned. Is it a coincidence that the names are closely associated with Mosley and Ecclestone?

I don't know but I find that outside of the four teams that have confirmed their entry the rest is just speculation that gets people excited.

For my part I am concentrating on the people who have confirmed and entry - USF1, Prodrive, Litespeed, Superfund. Can't remember if Lola confirmed or not.

I wish we knew if they were all true or not.

[DexDexter]

I'm sorry, but I can't see names like Brabham or March being any kind of serious teams in the making. I've got a strange feeling someone is joking here. Maybe Max asked those guys to enter their "teams" for F1 to make his negotiating position with FOTA stronger?

You're on to something here, I mean why March and Brabham? Why not Eurobrun, Andrea Moda Formula and Coloni?

[nigelred5]

Im not sure pit space would be a problem.... (apart from Monaco) because lets look at some facts here:

Dubai 24 hrs-Over 70 cars enter-all get their own garages on pit lane.
Britcar 24 hours-59 cars or whatever it is-all cars have a pit garage
NASCAR-43 cars, all have pit spaces


so F1 shouldnt have too much of a problem actually. Only problem is, the FIA just want a small grid..........


maybe they should go mad-have 40 car grids and a nascar-like points system? OK thats a mad thought, at least it would be entertaining......

The entire pit and garage situation in F1 IRKS me, always has since Bernie and his franchise BS was instituted. So what if the teams need a garage at fly away races. Here's a thought, quit packing the teams like a woman on a weekend holiday. It's three days, only one pair of shoes is needed. Ok maybe two...


Here's my thoughts for the bazillionth time. It takes 7 people max to pit a car with the current F1 refuelling system, 5 if there is only a single front and rear tire changer, 4 if there is no refuelling, 3 if they allowed onboard pneumatic jacks like In Indycars. The average F1 pit crew on a stop is 18 as best as I can manage to count in all that chaos tha is an F1 pitstop.That's enough for three cars IMHO. Assenine. Total utter BS. Oh, "but the cars share the same fuel rig".... Yet they have a back-up rig?
Divide the crew in half and that's still twice as many as necessary. Every track is required to have the Garaj- Majal setup for 24 teams, however many tracks can accomodate far more cars in pit lane. Bernie just doesn't want the burden of transporting more than 24 cars half way around the world. They USED to do it??? Me thinks his wallet doth protest too much.

I'd much prefer to see an Indycar style pit lane during the races. They are far safer to the crews and spectators and infinitely less congested with people than the typical F1 pit lane. If a car is retiring from a race, there is ZERO reason that car need return to the pit lane garage during the race. Nor is ther a reason set up changes to the cars can't be made on pit lane. extensive changes can happen "behind the wall or in the garage. When was the last time an F1 car went to the garage, was repaired and then returned to the race?

F1 needs to re-think their entire pit/paddock demands. Tell me they wouldn't triple their attendance if fans were allowed to walk the paddock and garages when the track is closed like in American racing. Look at when they have opened the tracks to a pit walkabout.

[maximilian]

The entire pit and garage situation in F1 IRKS me, always has since Bernie and his franchise BS was instituted. So what if the teams need a garage at fly away races. Here's a thought, quit packing the teams like a woman on a weekend holiday. It's three days, only one pair of shoes is needed. Ok maybe two...

Very good post, Nige! I totally agree on all that, like I stated before, part of reducing expenses should be to reduce the pit sizes, and yes, indeed it makes a LOT of sense to cut the crews as well. Other series have limits on how many mechanics are allowed to service a car, so why not F1, too? And who says that a pit stop needs to take less than 8 seconds?

[jens]

With March and Brabham I have got another speculation. If FIA really decides to reject FOTA's application, then after June 12 Max tells FOTA members that if you want to race in F1, then buy their place on the grid and you can race. : The only function of those "empty names" is just to fill up all 13 entry slots, so that there is no room any more and their place can be bought - more money to FIA (we might get more of those empty names during next days).

[nigelred5]

What is the root of all evil???

[maximilian]

What is the root of all evil???

Bernie.