Formula 1 game

[52Paddy]

I cant believe people are saying GRID is a bad game. ridiculous.

GRID doesnt aim to be a sim, nor does DIRT, They are both semi sim/arcade racers. and for that, They are both brilliant games. especially GRID, as semi sim/arcade racers go, its the greatest game on the planet ever in the history of everything in the world.

I don't know whether I speak for many people here but, in my case, this sim/arcade mix doesn't work for me. I don't like arcade racing. And there are other people out there who just like authentic racing, nothing arcade or cheesy. When you consider the original TOCA games, and how they did a great job of modelling the 1997 and 1998 BTCC series, its hard to live with what Codies produce today. Sure, GRID has its audiences. But what gets up my wick is that Codies now get the licence for an F1 game, just going by their reputation. Their reputation has changed. They used to make fantastic race/rally games but have gradually been taken in to the hype of arcade racing, at the expense of the hardcore fan. For me GRID and DIRT was the last straw and now I'm just not happy to trust them to make a hardcore F1 racing sim. I just can't see them doing it.

But I can understand why people dont like the games. Colin Mcrae o5 and Toca 3 were both semi sim games, and these newer games have gone down a different route to produce something more exciting and more for everybody.
Grid is awesome. leave it alone. just because its different to TOCA doesnt mean its a bad game.

Everybody? Not entirely convinced. These later contraptions to come from Codies don't appeal to me in the slightest. The lifespan is just awful. I'd rather just do a full championship again in Toca 1 or 2, or just go back and play the first F1 licensed game on PS1. At this stage, so much can be put into games, that I would much rather a less is more approach. Realism should be the main thing on sim racing producers mind, in my opinion. Even in front of graphics and features. Then features like rules/regs, safety cars etc should be included. While a graphically great game looks fantastic, its not going to compensate for bad playability or lifespan.

also, races in GRID are epic, whereas Toca they're a bit dull as AI dont do much apart from drive.

In Toca 2 the AI would take swipes at you every now and then. And the AI even used to get dangerous driving warnings on occasions! You would also notice some drivers spinning off on their own accord. I loved the subtly of those games. Just those little things that happen out of the blue. Sure, the AI could be beaten easily by an adequate player of the game, but it didn't detract from the many years of fun I had (and still do have when I dig up the game again.)

I respect that you may like these later games Dan, but there are people out there who just want to race as authentically as possible. I'm sure Codies have the know-how to produce a really good F1 game, but I don't think they will.