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19th April 2009, 11:12 #141
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Originally Posted by christophulus
Button was 20 seconds behind Vettel after his last pitstop and ended up more than 40 seconds adrift at the end, with no SC in between.
Also if tire pressure was the problem why did they chose not to change Rubens tires at the lat pit stop?
Ross is trying to cover up for the drivers not being up to the task, and it's normal one's a pensioner and the other is a curbstone compared to Vettel.
Jenson is good when everything is right but that's it. I have a feeling he wouldn't have won in Sepang if the race would not have been stopped, so getting only 5 points was some divine justice.Michael Schumacher The Best Ever F1 Driver
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19th April 2009, 12:04 #142
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19th April 2009, 12:09 #143
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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
still, could have been 6-7th but for a spin too many
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19th April 2009, 12:23 #144
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I don't know about the car comparison between Red Bull and Brawn GP in the wet, but I definitely do rate the RBR driver line-up higher than Brawn's. Actually, IMO Red Bull has the best driver line-up in F1 at the moment. Feel free to disagree.
But Button and Barrichello have proved to be quick wet weather drivers in the past, so there isn't an exact reason to dismiss their performances either, although... considering that Rubens is getting beaten by Jenson even by a bigger margin than he did by Michael years ago, I suspect RB's better days may be over...
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19th April 2009, 12:31 #145
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19th April 2009, 21:14 #146
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19th April 2009, 22:23 #147
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Originally Posted by jens
In the words of an old Michelob advert...
'Some things, speak for themselves..."
DRIVER STANDINGS
01 Jenson Button 21
02 Rubens Barrichello 15
03 Sebastian Vettel 10
04 Timo Glock 10
05 Mark Webber 9.5
06 Jarno Trulli 8.5
07 Nick Heidfeld 4
08 Fernando Alonso 4
09 Heikki Kovalainen 4
10 Lewis Hamilton 4
CONSTRUCTOR STANDINGS
01 Brawn-Mercedes 36
02 RBR-Renault 19.5
03 Toyota 18.5
04 McLaren-Mercedes 8
05 BMW Sauber 4
06 Renault 4
07 STR-Ferrari 4
08 Williams-Toyota 3.5
09 Ferrari 0
10 Force India-Mercedes 0Defend mediocrity... because excelence is just too hard to achieve. :p
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20th April 2009, 18:19 #148
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just think hes an an italian ass thats a sore losser and cant stand the fact the fact a new team like brawn is winning already and his team is not winning like they USE to. i dont hear alonso making a fuss nor Jr. end of the day it upto him and his team to get better and catch brawn gp and pther teams up...end of
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21st April 2009, 00:03 #149
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Has anyone thought that perhaps the thing that has made Brawn so dominant so far is exactly why they were not so good in the wet?
What I mean is, that their performance has everything to do with tire temperatures. In the dry, you try to get your tires up to temp fairly quickly (which in F1, most of that work is done by tire warmers) then you try to keep them "cool". That makes the tires "happy" and last for a long while.
The reverse is true in the rain. YOU NEED ALL THE HEAT IN THE TIRES YOU CAN GET. I don't know how to stress that more. Tires make grip with heat. Water strips heat from tires. If you can warm up the tires you are better off. Well it appears that the Brawn is a very nice car from the tire's point of view. That is a VERY good thing in the dry, but not so good in the wet.
The lack of testing in the wet that they had, means that they didn't know exactly how to change the car to work in the wet. They took a good stab at it and came up second best on the day. Not too shabby, if you ask me.The overall technical objective in racing is the achievement of a vehicle configuration, acceptable within the practical interpretation of the rules, which can traverse a given course in a minimum time. -Milliken
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21st April 2009, 08:40 #150
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But that explanation doesn't then explain why they won in malaysia?
"I am fed up with this car.....pfft"
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