Chris Atkinson 2009

[Minke]

They do, but it's not a woop di do brand like the big 3.... or even in the top 10 of car brand sales.

I know that our top Four are

Toyota
Holden (General Motors / Opal)
Ford
Mitsubishi

After that.. it would be (if I were to guess)
hyundai
VW
kia
MBenz
BMW
Peugeot
Citeron
Renault


Basicly, I'd be surprised is Citeron aust paid for any drives for chris..

[mjh]

I know that our top Four are

Toyota
Holden (General Motors / Opal)
Ford
Mitsubishi

After that.. it would be (if I were to guess)
hyundai
VW
kia
MBenz
BMW
Peugeot
Citeron
Renault


Basicly, I'd be surprised is Citeron aust paid for any drives for chris..

From April last year, couldn't find a more recent one on a quick google but should be near enough......

Manufacturer - Monthly Sales - YTD Sales
1 - Toyota - 20,838 - 81,062
2 - Holden - 10,187 - 44,037
3 - Ford - 8,246 - 34,533
4 - Mazda - 6,749 - 28,439
5 - Mitsubishi - 5,007 - 21,697
6 - Nissan - 4,935 - 20,375
7 - Honda - 4,289 - 19,448
8 - Hyundai - 3,683 - 15,058
9 - Subaru - 3,158 - 13,473
10 - Volkswagen - 2,440 - 10,290

FCAI give similar top 10 Australian marques for 2007.

[L5->R5/CR]

wrong.

Did that change recently?

I would have sworn that a couple of years ago Red Bull was not allowed to be sold in France.

You learn something everyday.

[Mirek]

In mid-May, the French government gave in, reaching an agreement with Red Bull to allow the sale of the original formula. Officials had no choice because under European Union rules, a product sold in other member states cannot be banned unless there is scientific proof of a danger to consumers, said a Finance Ministry spokeswoman, Sylvie Garnier.

June 9, 2008, International Herald Tribune

[Bazza2541]

I guess my problem is that I have been a life long supporter of Ford in rallying and it saddens me to see a seat given to someone who will never make the grade, dad's money or not. There have been many threads about this and how 'Malcolm can spend his own money on what he wants to', but is it in Ford's best interest to allow this to happen?


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Ford have very little say in the matter as M-Sport is largely self financing and the control comes with the cash.

[FabiaFan]

i wouldnt be suprised that red bull's contract stipulates that there must be a french and spanish driver to cover there marketing exposure in those areas

But isn't it Citroën's interest tho have a driver from France and Spain, its greatest markets?

[FabiaFan]

Btw. what about Fiat and Skoda in AUS??? (thinking of Atkinson's IRC engagement...)
While I had a visit from an Australian friend here in Europe recently, she laughed, she was really surprised, because she sees no cars of the Fabia/207/Punto class on the roads there... On the other hand she thought that Skoda Octavia/Superb would be an immediate success there...

[Minke]

Btw. what about Fiat and Skoda in AUS??? (thinking of Atkinson's IRC engagement...)
While I had a visit from an Australian friend here in Europe recently, she laughed, she was really surprised, because she sees no cars of the Fabia/207/Punto class on the roads there... On the other hand she thought that Skoda Octavia/Superb would be an immediate success there...

We get Fiat and Skoda in Aus (Skoda is VW after all). Skoda's are selling well here (according to a friend at VW).. but certainly not in the league of raising $$$ for CA...

a fair few of 207's on the road too...

[GigiGalliNo1]

she sees no cars of the Fabia/207/Punto class on the roads there...

There are a whole load of 206's, 306's, 405's, 207's and 307's in Australia! Seen a few Fiat Punto's and 500's around as well so don't know where she is getting her info from or she doesn't know her cars! haha There are so many small classed vehicles here... Fiesta, Focus, 207, Barina, Astra, Honda Jazz (Fit), Mitsu Colt, Corolla bla bla bla

I know that our top Four are

Toyota
Holden (General Motors / Opal)
Ford
Mitsubishi

After that.. it would be (if I were to guess)
hyundai
VW
kia
MBenz
BMW
Peugeot
Citeron
Renault

Basicly, I'd be surprised is Citeron aust paid for any drives for chris..

Where did you learn how to spell?

Citeron? Opal?

Citroen don't have THAT much money to endorse Atkinson... only Subaru but they've left the Rally Scene many moons ago.... Also, Subaru left Rally and its heritage and went into circuit racing, and god knows where that has gone?! Toyota have also recently left the Australian Championship... Ford never had a chance and Skoda.... they don't sell the Fabia in Aus! Well not yet..... Oh and even Honda came to Aus for the Australian Rally Championship.... but again no money or something rather....

[Minke]

There are a whole load of 206's, 306's, 405's, 207's and 307's in Australia! Seen a few Fiat Punto's and 500's around as well so don't know where she is getting her info from or she doesn't know her cars! haha There are so many small classed vehicles here... Fiesta, Focus, 207, Barina, Astra, Honda Jazz (Fit), Mitsu Colt, Corolla bla bla bla



Where did you learn how to spell?

Citeron? Opal?

Citroen don't have THAT much money to endorse Atkinson... only Subaru but they've left the Rally Scene many moons ago.... Also, Subaru left Rally and its heritage and went into circuit racing, and god knows where that has gone?! Toyota have also recently left the Australian Championship... Ford never had a chance and Skoda.... they don't sell the Fabia in Aus! Well not yet..... Oh and even Honda came to Aus for the Australian Rally Championship.... but again no money or something rather....

hehe.. I can't spell.. I'll give you that..

yes you are correct in all that you've said.. Honda, Ford, Toyota and Subaru have all recently (more recent for some) left the Australian Rally C'Ship once considered the strongest national series in the world (if you believe the marketing hype)

2009 ARC will be interesting... if the ex toyota boys (Bates and Evans) can get some $$ together they'll be very strong..

Cody Crocker (Asia Pac champ) is a product of the ARC... always surprised that he didn't get a run in the WRC...