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31st January 2007, 00:24 #11
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Until now, the section between corner 11th (Banc Sabadell) and 13th (New Holland), the one you call "tightest and twistiest part of the circuit", was an accelleration area (from 120 to 280 km/h), with a slight break to negotiate New Holland before the straight.
In that conditions overtaking was impossible, and the distance of cars starting the long straight, made it difficult. Now the chicane will allow cars to arrive to New Holland (the last corner) much closer than before, giving more chances of overtaking on the straight.
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31st January 2007, 00:26 #12
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Thanks guys.
I'm in two minds. The last corner is probably one of the most under-rated corners in F1. In qualy the cars would go through that corner almost flat out - but the circuit is littered with hi-speed corners and therefore the car behind was stuck in dirty air.
My feeling is that they should've at least altered T1&T2 into sharper corners, increase braking distances and overtaking chances.The world according to Taki Inoue: https://mobile.twitter.com/takiinoue/st ... 7249326080
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31st January 2007, 08:47 #13
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I guess it's cheaper to keep modifying circuits than it is for the FIA to actually do something about aero on the cars themselves
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31st January 2007, 09:02 #14
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31st January 2007, 14:32 #15
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Originally Posted by andreag
If passing is whats wanted then New Holland should be made considerably tighter, that would go a long way to sorting that out.
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31st January 2007, 14:44 #16
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Boooooooooooooooooooo!
What really surprise me are the comments here that suggest that those chicanes are all good because they (theoretically) produce more overtaking. Artificial overtaking, that it. They could use the old Avus track then if all they want is sharp corners and 4-km straights.
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31st January 2007, 15:37 #17
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Originally Posted by Erki
1.- The way this part of the circuit was before, made overtaking almost impossible.
2.- I've seen it on location, and not just in photos, and I drove it before it changed (I want to do it also after).
Originally Posted by Erki
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_GlYbH1Fvg
Old circuit, slow chicane, fast cars and clever drivers. But it was done!
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31st January 2007, 18:52 #18
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Of course it was done, it was Montoya! But that chicane still isn't my favourite corner. What I meant was that adding chicanes left right and middle is just a mickey mouse way of creating overtaking. What about taking a close look on the cars and find a way to avoid that turbulence effect.
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31st January 2007, 19:50 #19
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Originally Posted by Erki
So any other solution to increase overtaking opportunities has to be welcome. Most of us still dream of a comeback of pure overtaking and more control in drivers' hands, instead of aero overdose and too much electronic control (some is OK, but this is too much); so though chicanes aren't the best solution, are better than nothing. Do you remember last Spanish G.P. It was OK on the circuit (almost any race is exciting that way), but everyone who watch it on TV said it was booooooring.
You'll see next race in Montmelo, and you'll have more fun than in 2006.
By the way, the Bus Stop isn't my fave corner too.
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31st January 2007, 23:44 #20
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What concerns Barcelona, then Turn 1 should be a lot tighter. Only that may cause more overtaking manouvers.
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