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19th October 2008, 23:04 #1
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Schumi: Where for art thou?
James Allen alluded to something on the weekend that has been nagging at me since about the half-way point of the season. And that is what could Michael Schumacher do with a car as good as the F2008?
Allen suggested that some where saying that the only reason Hamilton is even in the title hunt is because the Ferrari drivers have singularly failed to deliver the goods. I think there's some truth to this theory.
We all know how crappy a season Raikkonen's had. He's lost 16 points that I can think of through chucking the car at the scenery or another car. Spa - lost 8 points spinning out of 2nd. Singapore - lost 4 points running by hitting the wall while running 5th and Monaco - lost 4 points by ramming Sutil while running 5th. Can anybody see Schumi doing that? Those points would have clinched the WCC already and seen him still in contention for the WDC.
Massa hasn't lost as many points, just 8 (from memory) from throwing it off the road in Malaysia but those 8 points would see us with 1 point ball game with 1 race to play. Throw in a truly awful performance at Silverstone and you have the makings of a championship lost.
I have the feeling that even a 2006 vintage Schumi would have put Hamilton away this year. The F2008 is the better car and Schumi would have put it to great use. Even if you account for the mechanical troubles Ferrari have had I still think Schumi's leadership and ability to extract every point that the F2008 has in it would have seen the WDC over with 2 races to spare.
Not that Hamilton doesn't deserve the title. He's a truly gifted driver and is thoroughly deserving of his impending title but as a Ferrari fan this season has made me appreciate how much Michael Schumacher brought to the table every other Sunday.Forza Ferrari!!
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19th October 2008, 23:35 #2
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Originally Posted by Hawkmoon
If his old team, on the wall and in the pits and back at the factory, all and complete were running the show, instead of drivng down the pit lane with your hose flopping around, I think that the battle for the WDC might well be between Massa and Kimi
The same for last year.
Add in MS, and there is no question.
BUT MS only added into this year's team as it is currently made up? The result would still be...... pinhead:Only the dead know the end of war. Plato:beer:
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19th October 2008, 23:43 #3
Ramming Sutil was a freak incident IMO. The car squirreled under breaking and I doubt that there was intent.
As for Schumi he would have done well but I'm not sure he'd have wrapped the title up like some think. When Hamilton has won the McLaren has usually been fairly dominant. The other question that you have to ask is how well Schumi would operate without Ross Brawn? I know that MS was an amzingly clever driver but without a decent crew chief he won't fulfil potential.
Also with Schumi in for Kimi then Lewis wouldn't have hit anyone at Canada :You're so beige, you probably think this signature is about someone else.
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20th October 2008, 00:06 #4
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Originally Posted by HawkmoonThe world according to Taki Inoue: https://mobile.twitter.com/takiinoue/st ... 7249326080
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20th October 2008, 00:18 #5
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Hindsight is a beautiful things!
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20th October 2008, 01:30 #6
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Originally Posted by HawkmoonWhen in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout
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20th October 2008, 02:01 #7
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Originally Posted by Hawkmoon
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20th October 2008, 02:16 #8
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Originally Posted by AJP
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
His comment that "some" in the pitlane felt the Ferrari drivers weren't getting the best out of the car just echoed my own feelings. I doubt Allen personally feels that way due to his man-crush on Hamilton.
Originally Posted by theugsquirrelForza Ferrari!!
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20th October 2008, 02:25 #9
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Every time they show Schumacher at races, he always looks so eager to be in the field.
I throw this question out there: If just for a year would you sign him, keeping in mind he'll be 40 this January?
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20th October 2008, 04:03 #10
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James Allen
Originally Posted by Hawkmoon
I have more faith in what Martin says as he not only knows from personal experience, he keeps in touch with developments in F1.
I have always felt that James Allen's job is to make a lot of noise with his commentary so that there wouldn't be stunned silence from the commentary box. That means he has to make up stories as the race progresses just to give Martin a break and/or to catch his breath. I think James Allen's "Xylophone effect explanation" when cars come closer together on the slower corners is exactly what I mean. Fortunately, Martin corrected that was the "concertina effect".
I think the Ferrari drivers were trying as hard as possible in the past two races but were just not up to winning the two races. Now the belief is that Ferrari and especially Massa goes extremely well as history as shown in Brazil. Well, if the Ferraris are both faster than Lewis, then he should just follow them home and not resort to something stupid.When in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout
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