Another school shooting in Finland

[Eki]

That excuse dont work here i guess, I dont have statistics but propably 99% of home robbery are done when nobody is home.

I don't remember anyone here defending their home against a robber. On the other hand, I do remember hearing peoples' guns and gun collections being stolen by burglers.

[Tomi]

I do remember hearing peoples' guns and gun collections being stolen by burglers.

Lol, I was thnking the same yesterday, I know a collector who have around 200 guns mostly very old, but many modern too.

[Hawkmoon]

ban the guns!!!

It has worked very well in countries who have banned guns. Just look at Mexico. The people and visitors can't legally possess guns. So they have been real safe. Well a few heads roll at the disco's from time to time and only 2000 law enforcement people have been killed this year. Cities are controlled by drug gangs but at least the average citizen won't suffer because they will die real fast if in the way of any of drug battles. Mexico City is so peaceful they just recently had a love-in to signify how safe the city is and how virtually no crime exists.
So yep get out the trash bins and collect those guns.

We aren't permitted most types of guns in Australia yet we don't have high violent crime rates. I'm sorry but gun ownership isn't a solution to crime. Never has been and never will be,

That has been one suggestion. Well, at least the hand guns.

I agree. I fail to see where and what an avarage joe does need a hand gun for?

Home defence.

Wouldn't a bolt action .22 do the same thing? Why does it need to be a semiautomatic hand gun? I find the American obsession with guns absurd. I find it rather sad that an American police officer will pull a driver over for a traffic offense and approach the car with his/her hand on their sidearm. This sort of thing doesn't happen in Australia becuase the chances of the someone having a pistol in their glovebox is practically zero.

Guns haven't made America safer. It's exactly the opposite. Seems the Finns are having the same problem.

[Daniel]

We aren't permitted most types of guns in Australia yet we don't have high violent crime rates. I'm sorry but gun ownership isn't a solution to crime. Never has been and never will be,





Wouldn't a bolt action .22 do the same thing? Why does it need to be a semiautomatic hand gun? I find the American obsession with guns absurd. I find it rather sad that an American police officer will pull a driver over for a traffic offense and approach the car with his/her hand on their sidearm. This sort of thing doesn't happen in Australia becuase the chances of the someone having a pistol in their glovebox is practically zero.

Guns haven't made America safer. It's exactly the opposite. Seems the Finns are having the same problem.

Please stop being logical and sensible when it comes to guns.

I always thought the best form of home defence was locking your doors and windows If your doors and windows are securely locked then the person is going to have to break a window to get in and most burglars won't do that and will just move onto a softer target.

[janneppi]

Guns haven't made America safer. It's exactly the opposite. Seems the Finns are having the same problem.

Not exactly, I don't know anyone who keeps a gun for safety reasons. It's just not an issue, at least not in the same way as in US.

[Daniel]

Not exactly, I don't know anyone who keeps a gun for safety reasons. It's just not an issue, at least not in the same way as in US.

I don't think Hawkmoon was saying that Finns keep guns for protection, but more that having small automatic weapons widely available doesn't make you safer.

[Eki]

I just read that some gun dealers here refuse from now on to sell guns to people under 25 until Finland changes its gun laws. Could be moral, could be marketing, I don't know. Or could be just common sense, like those car renting firms who don't rent cars to people under 25, although in some countries you can get a driver's license when you're 16.

[Garry Walker]

Not in here. Baseball bat or just loud voice is enough.

In Finland all they need guns for is hunting and school shootings.

If you are an out of shape average computer geek male or a female, then a baseball bat is the most dangerous thing to use against a burglar. Because likelyhood is that the burglar will disarm you quickly, then beat you up with that whilst laughing.

A good bullet to the burglars chest will stop the problem quickly and he probably will not be laughing much anymore.

Why does it need to be a semiautomatic hand gun? .

Because then you can shoot 2 burglars. Or one burglar 3 times.

[A.F.F.]

Because then you can shoot 2 burglars. Or one burglar 3 times.

That is funny. That Finnish school shooter shot 200 rounds to his 10 victims.

RIP.

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