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26th September 2008, 01:21 #41
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Well then, tied up with the fact that the al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock are both Islamic sites, there are also some rather moot points that must be made about the Qu'ran:
The Qu'ran endorses the Torah's assertation that the land belongs to the Jews:
We (Allah) made a weak people (Israelites), inheritors of lands in both east and west - lands whereupon We sent down Our blessings. This fair promise of thy Lord was fulfilled for the Children of Israel, because they had patience and constancy - Quran 7:137
But it also suggests that they must be killed:
Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) - Quran 2:191-2
And Muhamed himself reiterated this:
You Muslims must fight the Jews till some of them hide behind stones. The stones will betray them saying...There is a Jew hiding behind me; kill him - Sahih Bukhari 4:5:176, 177
So then, we have two groups of people who would both claim the land under religious grounds and one one them who are directed in their scripture to kill the other lot.
And you think that there's a solution to this? Sorry, but I wager that this is impossible.The Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!
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28th September 2008, 22:19 #42
some people's idea of a good time
http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1025124.html
http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1025075.html
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30th September 2008, 11:30 #43
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some people's idea of the truth:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7642586.stmבאמת הלכת לגוגל לתרגם את זה? פראייר
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30th September 2008, 11:59 #44
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Originally Posted by Daniel
And the difference with Northern Ireland is that while yes it was over religion, the Irish weren't willing to take their OWN lives in any attack, making them less dangerous. Whereas the new breed of terrorist is actually retarded enough to actually believe in the afterlife and 72(?) virgins and all that rubbish.
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30th September 2008, 14:04 #45Originally Posted by Rani
and happy new year
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30th September 2008, 14:52 #46Originally Posted by V12
both the Israel-Palestine and Northern Ireland situations are over land, not religion.
In fact the original Zionists were very secular in their beliefs. Even the most religious of Jews don't recognise the state of Israel because it wasn't granted to them by God, just taking the land is not what God intended.
such a pity that so many have died over the centuries over a miserable city/theme park in Jersualem. can't see many people dying over Universal Studios.
Quite a head start for Neuville then compared to Tänak regarding next year. Tested the 2025 machine before CER and now this.
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