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    I wonder if this decision was actually invalid or void or whatever (and I am not so sure about any of this, as I am merely relying on what has been alleged), then what about such other decisions by the same body? For example the fuel temps issues and so forth.

    And why did it take so long for anyone to point this out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ioan
    You mean you all McLaren fans (or Lewy fanboys) ?!
    Not a Mclaren fan. Dennis is a numpty who whinges about everything. I'm talking about the realists who realise that in a sport that is worth as much as F1 that there will be espionage involved. It took a Ferrari person to help out with the information and I'm guessing it wasn't out of the kindness of his heart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Jan Yeo
    Not a Mclaren fan. Dennis is a numpty who whinges about everything. I'm talking about the realists who realise that in a sport that is worth as much as F1 that there will be espionage involved. It took a Ferrari person to help out with the information and I'm guessing it wasn't out of the kindness of his heart

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    Espionage was always there in f1 and other motorsports, that's right.
    But it was under the form of taking pictures of the competitors cars, and the result was that McLaren (yes exactly them) were the first ones to come up with those nasty shields they were installing in front of their garages so that the cars can't be seen when at full stop. So teams had hired professional photographs and than starting from those photos and a well known size they extrapolated the size of the parts they were interested in.

    What happened last year, and also a few years ago (with Toyota) was that the team had in their possession original Ferrari technical documentation, with the precise description of every part of the car.

    There is a clear difference between what you are calling espionage and hat McLaren did last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markabilly
    And why did it take so long for anyone to point this out?
    Maybe they needed lots of time to make up this history?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ioan
    Espionage was always there in f1 and other motorsports, that's right.
    But it was under the form of taking pictures of the competitors cars, and the result was that McLaren (yes exactly them) were the first obes to come up with those nasty shields...
    Waaaaaaaaayyy, waaaaaaaaay before then ioan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
    Waaaaaaaaayyy, waaaaaaaaay before then ioan.
    maybe before then the rules weren't the same either?! :
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