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21st April 2008, 01:28 #21
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Just hopped over the indycar.com
Apparently, there was no Long Beach Grand Prix today??!!??
I though they were "one series"??
maybe I do have a point.....Long live the Baltimore GP!!!
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21st April 2008, 01:28 #22
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Originally Posted by bblocker68
I want to say that I didn't have a problem with the Danica interview. Or the fact that they were able to get a camera in the booth and get her on TV even though they said that the booth was too small when Graham was in there. (caught in a lie there ESPN)
My issue was with how long it kept going with no mention of the actual race at all.****************
It's all one series now... can't we all get along?
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21st April 2008, 01:29 #23
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I think the whole thing sucks, the covers was flat, the play by play was missing something. No highlights leading up too the race from past CART/Champcar races held at Long Beach, at least the Lemans races was worth watching.
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21st April 2008, 01:35 #24Originally Posted by NCcartfan
Originally Posted by NCcartfan
Originally Posted by NCcartfan
First of all, most of the things you mentioned happened in the CART years. And CART - and it's heritage - died four years ago when it went bankrupt. If the con job the previous owners of the CCWS tried to pull is not obvious to you - especially after what we are now beginning to learn - you may want to catch up on your reading.
Second, after all the badmouthing and derogatory things CC fans have said about the IRL over the years (things you seem to want to continue here and now), I'm not sure those fans DESERVED more than they got today. Bottom line - actions have reactions, and this may very well have been the reaction to years of all of the fan rhetoric.
There was NO NEED for all the items you mention in your post, because that did not end today. Legally, whether you want to admit to it or not, that history is NOW A PART OF THE IRL.
The series goes on. Today, in my mind, was nothing more than an abnormally brought about by a scheduling conflict that couldn't be resolved.Keep your eyes open for the rest of January, you may be in for a surprise - Speeds Up...
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21st April 2008, 01:40 #25
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It was a weak ending to a series that I never watched. So, to me, the Danica interview was not that big of a deal. I didn't see any really exciting action in the side by side. That said, I completely understand how ESPN's conclusion of this event came off as borderline offensive to the real champcar fans. It felt like a rush job, everyone is happy to move on from this event to the single-series. I don't know that I'd blame Reid or Goodyear either, it's the producer's call at ESPN as to how to handle the event. And they treated it just like any other race.
I do agree with some of what TB says above though, which is that it's not really being honest when you say CC and Cart are one in the same. CART was finished back in 2004, today was not the end of CART. Also, the only way IndyCar will get back into popularity is through personalities like Danica, Helio, Rahal, Power along with commercialization through big sponsors. The end of the LB race was a total sellout, but it was an effort to commercialize a race that only a small audience (based on ChampCar ratings last year) really cared about.
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21st April 2008, 01:59 #26
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Originally Posted by NCcartfan
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21st April 2008, 02:01 #27
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I thought putting Patrick on at the end like that was a disgrace. It was not her race - Power did an awesome job and all they could do was fawn over Danica. What's more, as a racer, she could have said - wait a minute - someone else is out there and I do not want to take away from their moment... Very disappointing way of dealing with the end of the race...
That being said - congrats to Danica on her win... she deserved it - but Will Power deserved his win just as much and he deserves the credit just as much.....
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21st April 2008, 02:02 #28
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Taking the last 10 minutes of the last Champ Car race to blather all over Danica was an insult to race fans, the race teams, anyone who ever cared about the history and future of US Open Wheel , and certainly all of the Champ Car followers. Ok, she is a story. But so is the last Champ Car race. It deserved more respect regardless of your feeling toward Champ Car.
I always thought CART at its height was a great series. But the poor management of its last years and the amateurish comedy of errors that followed called Champ Car was difficult to support. I thought Champ Car lasted longer than it deserved and don't mourn its passing. But I was furious over todays broadcast -absolutely furious. Some may think Danica! is the future of Indy Car racing but the race today was an end of an era, a important era. The Champ Car Teams and fans deserved more respect from the broadcasters - a lot more.
They could have at least given some commentary about what was happening on-track, but they treated the race as an unimportant side show. Today was a day that should sadden all race fans. Today was a day when racing took a back seat to hype and hero worship.I read it on the internet, so it must be true
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21st April 2008, 02:07 #29
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Originally Posted by -Helix-LBGP: The Sound - The Spectacle. Racin' at its finest.
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21st April 2008, 02:45 #30
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Originally Posted by -Helix-
Maybe as an armchair fan your analysis is acceptable but ESPN/ICS lost a lot of credibilty in my book today.
I was there and upon getting home, very dissappointed watching the ESPN coverage on DVR. If they really wanted to build the European audience, they could have at least acknowledged the other women driver who won today. Great Job Simone and Newman Wachs Racing.LBGP: The Sound - The Spectacle. Racin' at its finest.
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