How strong is the Ferrari?

[Daniel]

They did! Much more complex, larger. with longer cooling fins! Next question?

Everything you've said in this thread is pure speculation You're basing your "argument" on rumours. A mistake if ever there was one.

P.S I still think it was the flux capacitor.

[Tazio]

Yes I'm speculating 1:
In either Inside Grand Prix or the Australian Grad Prix pre-race Steve Matchet
held up a Magnetti Morelli ECU used by a Ferrari engine last year. It was much larger the MES of 2008.
2: I think it would be safe to speculate that they require a different surface exposure for cooling!
3: Speculating that Ferrari got it wrong in extreme conditions is not a proposition that should be either discounted, or mocked.
I like a joke as much as the next guy does. Oh I get it!! Ha Ha!

[mstillhere]

It's not completely unheard of an engineer to screw up on something that seems like a minor detail.

It was a speculation made in jest.

But read your post below again and try to remember what Ferrari were doing for the last 20 years before they got the right people, many of whom have now left.

Are you suggesting that Ferrari can't make something as simple as ECU cooling done, if mirror dropping McLaren has?
Especially as Willy Shrampf from BMW said it should be no-brainer.

How many other powerplants blew up last weekend?

Now you are not comparing the ECU to a couple of rear mirrors, are you?

[Tazio]

By the way I didn't start the speculation!
http://formula-1.updatesport.com/new...-ECU/view.html
I'm simply discussing it. Since we have no other proof, speculation is the next logical
position to discuss it from.
I don't believe I was presenting an argument, just soliciting opinions!

[SGWilko]

By the way I didn't start the speculation!
http://formula-1.updatesport.com/new...-ECU/view.html
I'm simply discussing it. Since we have no other proof, speculation is the next logical
position to discuss it from.
I don't believe I was presenting an argument, just soliciting opinions!

Now now Tazio, discussion, on this forum? Are you 'avin' a laff????

The usual suspects on here don't know the meaning of the word.... :

[janneppi]

Now you are not comparing the ECU to a couple of rear mirrors, are you?

No, I'm comparing the cooling of an ECU to a couple of mirrors.

Then again, there was an interesting article about this today in Turun sanomat which claimed the problem was simply engine overheating and breaking up, which in itself is normal in those conditions and teams can monitor the temps. Apparently for some reason the ECU in Ferrari's didn't give out a warning and drivers weren't able to turn down revs or fuel mixture to save the engine.

If that is the case, you have to ask have Ferrari tested that the warning system system works?

[Tazio]

Apparently for some reason the ECU in Ferrari's didn't give out a warning and drivers weren't able to turn down revs or fuel mixture to save the engine.

If that is the case, you have to ask have Ferrari tested that the warning system system works?

That's a provocative speculation

[mstillhere]

Then again, there was an interesting article about this today in Turun sanomat which claimed the problem was simply engine overheating and breaking up, which in itself is normal in those conditions and teams can monitor the temps.

I have to disagree with the Turun sanomat article. Several people at Ferrari have said that the engine did not break down. It was an intake valve (I think that you are actually the one who posted this news) malfonctioning. Things get blurry once we start asking how come. This question has been left unswered. But evryone, MS, Kimi, Massa and so are claiming that Ferrari found out what the problem was and Monty said that this Sunday we will see what Ferrari can really do. LH seems to on the look out.
And even if things are not going well this time either, as we all know this is a sport where it's over only when it's over, as we all learned (and that includes LH and RD) just a couple of months ago

[wmcot]

According to Autosport.com Ferrari have cleared the ECU as the culprit and they supposedly know the cause. We'll see shortly.

[DonJippo]

It was an intake valve malfonctioning. Things get blurry once we start asking how come.

Malfunction due to overheating of the engine, which can be prevented with a decent cooling but also by adjusting air-fuel mixture during the race, it can be done by the driver when needed. What did happen in Melbourne was that team never got a warning of overheating engine because their systems do not function same way with the new ECU as with the old one. Therefore they never instructed drivers to change the mixture and the engines finally broke done.