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21st February 2008, 00:52 #11
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I really hope open wheel can milk this for all it is worth.
Though I will not pay to see those ****boxes in person, and I have nothing for the ovals B O R I N G. The worst is having to se those smug idiots like King George and ##### etc in the paddock.
Hard to believe Toronto is getting left out, but like I said before, I would be up north waterskiing if this came to town.
Perhaps if they get newcars down the road, standing starts and alot less ovals I may be interested down the road.
MotoGP, AMA Superbike, F1, GP2 and ALMS etc are all beckoning.
Ugly ##### around an oval? No thanksHELLO CHAMPCAR!! WAKE UP!! ARE YOU THERE??!!?? HELLLLLOOOOOO!!!!
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21st February 2008, 00:59 #12
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Well...it will be both a sad day and a jubilant one. Since 2004, the Amigos have simply mis-managed the series. What was there plan? Who knows. I am sad that it is over, and in essence we lost. Then again, I am happy that it is over because the Amigos were never going get their head out of you know where. Even with all the wealth of the Amigos, they were unable to get the sponsorship needed. What else needs to be said, it was a lost opportunity.
I just hope that more of the Champ Car venues are brought back. In particular: Portland, Laguna Seca, Vegas, and even Fontana, of course that is my West Coast bias. The oval formula has not worked for the IRL. They must reconsider that option. And obviously, the street circuit has not been the answer. Hopefully, next year they put good thought into where the series should race. I am sure that the venues that lose this years race will not be happy, nor will the fans. We will end up losing fans.
Unfortuantely, a merger was necessary because the Amigos were never going to figure it out. The IRL has the Indy 500 and that is the race that matters.
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21st February 2008, 05:13 #13
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Originally Posted by SoCalPVguy
The Hulman/George clan has been, at the very least, a thorn in the side of this sport since before I started watching in '70. It got bad enough to finally drive most of the teams to unite in saying "ENOUGH". CART was born. Tony saw it as his destiny to bring down CART. In the process, he completely trashed my favorite sport.
At the same time, there is the Hulman/George ghoulish approach to driver safety. That's why we had drivers dying against the concrete walls at Indy years after there were published engineering drawings and papers about a solution to the problem. That's why we had cars with a back-killing transaxle poking out of the rear of the car. That's why we have cars with a design flaw that causes them to get airborne too easily, after other forms of racing dealt with this problem.
I don't consider my hatred "petty". If the teams ever have the balls to face Tony down and get at least 50% control of their destinys, and transform it back into a sport where Indy might be the most important race, but the entire series isn't dedicated to it, then I'll watch again.
In the mean time, as I won't be watching, that will leave me without much to post about, except the very enjoyable technical threads that appear from time to time, so it will probably impact my posting habits, and those of some others who have feelings similar to mine.
Tony made this mess. It's now his job to clean it up.
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21st February 2008, 06:03 #14
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Originally Posted by namarowMost posters on this forum can't think past their own screen names...
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21st February 2008, 07:02 #15
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21st February 2008, 07:59 #16
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If you don't like oval racing, watch European series. Indy Cars are... well... Indy Cars, cars racing on Indy. This is an oval, you know.
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21st February 2008, 08:09 #17
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This is great news, finally one unified series.
'08 will be a transition year for sure, so I hope they'll bring the turbo's and Michigan and Toronto back into the mix for '09.
When this is realized and you're still complaining about TG and the ovals etc., you'll just be like those old japanese soldiers they found 30 years after ww2 on some remote pacific island still thinking that the war is still on.
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21st February 2008, 08:21 #18
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Sounds good, just wonder if e merger is so simple ?
Arent we gonna see some court action from thoose who not gonna get included, promotors, tracks, Panoz, etc ???
Why are the not axing any IRL races, like Homestead, where the crowd is very small ? Just wonder ?
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21st February 2008, 08:58 #19
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Originally Posted by Claus Hansen"Lawyers are the best investment"....Tom Leykis
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21st February 2008, 09:30 #20
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Originally Posted by Claus HansenSir! While I disagree with what you are saying, I will fight to the death your right to spell the words incorerctly and use heinous.. grammar yo !!!
Middle Eastern money though has been around for a while and didnt hear of that many people walking away when Citroen were backed by Abu Dhabi and Ford by Qatar both countries with issues around...
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