McLaren Statement

[Garry Walker]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64374

[rabf1]

"A deal worked out behind the scenes. Mac admits to being an even bigger thief and liar than previously thought, and Max says ok, you have immunity, case closed. Now go generate some cash for all of us."

Sounds exactly right to me. Case closed.

[SGWilko]

You'd assume that 'quick fill' relates to fuel flow, but I always thought it was 12l/s, as set by intertechnique. And trying to modify such resulted in Joss's fireball in '94.

Quick shift is clearly in relation to seamless shift I guess. Now, we know that the disastrous MP-19 I think - used a two clutch system, which is now not within the rules. Is it possible McLaren had not been using a seemless shift system, or just improving on theirs using Ferrari knowledge.

There is an article on Autosport now that talks about the '08 McLaren having a longer wheelbase, CO2 in the tyres and a Ferrari influenced brake balance system.

Given all this, Luca and Jean had every right to be livid after the first hearing.

Until the letter released today, I was still giving Ron the benefit of the doubt, for all we know he may NOT have known what was occuring, but the goodwill is gone now.

All I hope for is that there is as good racing next year as this, the new blood in F1 has now got a few seasons' exerience, what say Heikki, Kimi, Fillipe, Nico, Robert, Nick all have decent cars next year, all nicely evenly matched, no politics or BS, just pure racing, real F1 porn!!!

[gloomyDAY]

Time to put this matter behind in three easy steps:

1) McLaren are cheaters.
2) A deal has been reached between McLaren and the FIA.
3) Close the case and wait for Australia.

[airshifter]

The difference is that they final acknowledge what Max was saying about the team.
That they were using the illegally obtained Ferrari data even if they were denying it.

Not easy to digest, is it?!

Why is this hard to digest?

Some parts of the investigation prove that they used the data, and some parts prove that they didn't use data that many here have stated they used. Anyone that followed either the belief that they are complete cheaters or anyone that felt they had complete innocence was wrong.

A lot of people just wanted a complete enough investigation to determine exactly what was influenced, and to what extent.



Personally I now fear that the approval process of the 2008 Mclaren may allow some aspects acquired from Ferrari to be used. The only other way is to exclude them from using anything even remotely suspect, which is enough to keep just about any car from competing.

For someone such as myself without bias in either direction, it's a no win situation. Probably the best thing that could happen in my opinion would be for Mclaren to exclude themselves from the 2008 season and put an end to any doubts before they are voiced.





On another note but mentioned many times in all of these threads, but does anyone really think the tire gas in question is just C02? Even the young boy racers know about common gasses for tire fills, this is F1!

[Hawkmoon]

I wonder if the threat of exclusion from 2008 was real enough, or at least McLaren believed it was, to make them issue such a statement?

If McLaren felt that commercial realities would prevent them from being excluded I doubt they would have written that letter.

[ioan]

Have to give it to Max he's pulling the curtains on this affair in an elegant way! There's a good reason why he is at the top!

[CNR]

http://www.paddocktalk.com/news/html...icle&sid=73543

McLaren has proposed to freeze development of certain aspects of its 2008 car, after acknowledging that Ferrari secrets penetrated more deeply into the British team than was previously thought.
With the FIA still to rule on the legality of the MP4-23 following the 'Stepneygate' scandal, a McLaren statement on Thursday revealed that the governing body's recent investigation did indeed uncover that "Ferrari information was more widely disseminated ... than was previously communicated".

[wmcot]

But now the letter from McLaren offering an apology casts more doubt on the case. Is the apology real, or is it just an attempt to stop the investigations which might turn up even more problems for McLaren? We may not have seen the bottom of McLaren's pit yet!

[mstillhere]

Ready?

I TOLD YOU SO!!

WOW! It feels good.