Why?

**GeeBee2** · 22nd July 2007, 21:18

Would someone please explain why we didn't run the V8's after the first pickup race this afternoon?

The rain was forecast for 1600-1630 and the only formula present today that couldn't run in the rain had their last race just as a cloud that looked like it hid an Independence Day mother ship loomed over the turn 1 grandstand!

I was already a bit miffed cos we were staying a fair way from the circuit on Saturday night so didn't rush this morning. We turned up at 1030 just in time to hear the commentator say that Hunter had one the first race. Then to have a 5(?) lap race that ended in the only rain showere we'd had all day seemed a really duff bit of planning. (an I was out at turn 3 so got a "bit" wet walking back. Big thanks to the person driving the marshall bus who passed my twice!)

On a positive note, apart from the V8 cock-ups, all the other racing was brilliant! All the clubby stuff gave us really good close racing especially a couple of the Caterham races and the Pickups were fabulous as usual.

Roll on August and lets see some V8s, PLEASE!

**Stuart26** · 22nd July 2007, 21:26

I think its because the powers that be dont give a monkey's about the Stock cars. I cant think of any other reason,and it seemed to be a lifetime before we saw the PUT on track today.Moving the first race was a brainstorm then they got forgotten.At least we got 20 Caterham races

**turn 4 mad** · 22nd July 2007, 21:38

Originally Posted by Stuart26

At least we got 20 Caterham races

ask about the caterhams, and you will find out why we were left in the rain!

**spawn_e_git** · 22nd July 2007, 21:57

Yeah it was a bit of a shambles.

All the V8 cars were ready after the 1st truck race and all the spotters were complaining that they were not allowed out even though there was a good chance of rain when the V8's were due.

I feel for the V8 drivers. They are facing a diminishing field, playing 2nd fiddle to the PUT's and then they cannot even get the racing time because the organisers would not "tweak" the schedule.

If we was in the midst of a blistering summer and the rain was a freak then I would understand, but the fact is this is so far the worst summer I can remember and everything should have been done to allow the V8's to run.

**Dave17** · 22nd July 2007, 22:23

Originally Posted by GeeBee2

Big thanks to the person driving the marshall bus who passed my twice!

I love being thanked. Thought you were enjoying the bracing weather you so obviously were expecting and wandered to the furthest point from any shelter to gain full benefit of it.

Were you the same snapper I had to tell twice to get out of my line of site between post 11 & 12 on the infield by any chance.....Oh and its MARSHAL with one "L"

**darknessrock** · 22nd July 2007, 22:29

**darknessrock** · 22nd July 2007, 22:43

how come you passed them twice Dave? some wet weather minibus racing going on that i missed?

**LessThanSte** · 23rd July 2007, 00:07

Agree with this post. The spotters were all on the gantry, the cars appeared to be all ready, and much arguing ensued, only for them to carry on regardless and, surprise surprise, it rained.

Feel for the drivers, especially those with the long commutes, piece of idiotic race organisation really, imo.

No wonder this series comes so close to dieing, with decisions like that!

**racing59** · 23rd July 2007, 00:21

Originally Posted by spawn_e_git

Yeah it was a bit of a shambles.

All the V8 cars were ready after the 1st truck race and all the spotters were complaining that they were not allowed out even though there was a good chance of rain when the V8's were due.

I feel for the V8 drivers. They are facing a diminishing field, playing 2nd fiddle to the PUT's and then they cannot even get the racing time because the organisers would not "tweak" the schedule.

If we was in the midst of a blistering summer and the rain was a freak then I would understand, but the fact is this is so far the worst summer I can remember and everything should have been done to allow the V8's to run.

May I speak.

As has been said. We were ready. The C's refused to move, or they would spit their dummies and go home. To me, they are "guests in 'our' manor" and should behave with understanding and respect, and if our co-ordinators go to them and say "our main championship does not run in the rain, and we need to run them now to make sure they do run in the dry" then they should bite their lips, and live with it.

The issue with the pickup trucks, as I understand it, was one of "I don't think we can get away with changing the schedule again - the stewards of the meeting won't wear it" That was a race control decision.

Even though Sonny was happy to swap, given that he would have seen a full complement end up on the grid for their second race with a further 40-45 minutes to play with.

The issue, to me, is that we are seeing race meetings with us, the trucks, and lots of in-fill formulae to make up the day (and help pay towards the 100/min that it costs to hire the circuit), and that brings the possibility of lots of changes to the program that some CoC's are not willing to handle or put up with. In the old days, it was ASCAR's and Pickups, and Terry Grant doing donuts. The schedule could be much more fluid easily.

There are a large number (in terms of percentage) of V8 people who, as of right now, are very very unhappy.

V8 race 2 should have ended with a red flag, not a chequer, in my opinion, and then been declared void/null/did not really happen.

I want to see you all there in August, because you are the most loyal bunch of people I have ever met in a racing series. I want to be there.

If you are dissatisfied with the way the meeting went, please write, on paper or email, to Ian Brown at the BRSCC - he's the man at the top (operationally), the buck stops there.

The one thing we all agree on is that this form of motorsport is unlike any other in this country, it is an entertainment, and the fans should come first.

If they keep canning these races, how can I do my donuts in front of the fans in the stands when I learn how to go fast enough to see Chigley first.....

Fans first. Caterhams - you know where the gate is.

**V8 FAN** · 23rd July 2007, 00:34

[quote="racing59"]

I want to see you all there in August, because you are the most loyal bunch of people I have ever met in a racing series. I want to be there

If you are dissatisfied with the way the meeting went, please write, on paper or email, to Ian Brown at the BRSCC - he's the man at the top (operationally), the buck stops there.

The one thing we all agree on is that this form of motorsport is unlike any other in this country, it is an entertainment, and the fans should come first.

WELL SAID!!! the more emails mr Ian Brown gets! the more he may think of the FANS! Come on Mr Brown "Listen to the people who pay to watch"