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    Quote Originally Posted by focus206 View Post
    No need to hurt yourself, people who like funny prototypes could always go follow Extreme H or whatever its name is. Dakar has some of them too, and if one likes circuit racing, there's plenty of options.

    Another alternative is to let rally go to an amateur level with almost historic cars. That would also get rid of sillymobile lovers who want to see them "rally" in the US.
    So how many and which manufacturers are going to all rounds with 2 cars with Rally2?

    As for "sillymobile", you're once again proving you've got no idea what you're talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRCStan View Post
    So how many and which manufacturers are going to all rounds with 2 cars with Rally2?

    As for "sillymobile", you're once again proving you've got no idea what you're talking about.
    I don't know, we'd need to ask them. I don't like too much the "all rounds with 2 cars" rule, though. Without it, the long haul events will suffer, but it has always been like that, and now we don't need more of those events. But I guess entry lists would at least be compensated in part with Rally2 locals.

    And why is that? It's to poke fun at those... things.

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    Without long haul events you don't have a World championship - FIA rules.
    And without the permanent teams you don't have a commercial championship or promoter.
    Without these there's no WRC.

    When you said "they could simply go for Rally2 as top class", it sounds like you would have the answers. Here's some answers made public:

    M-Sport do nothing without a promoter
    Lancia and Skoda don't want permanent participation
    Hyundai's future is customer racing
    Toyota not interested and you kicked them out.

    So it falls to teams as you mentioned being supported by the WRC and event promoters. But the new promoter is not interested in them nor their cars, which is why there is this new kit.

    That WRC is dead to you doesn't make you an arsehole, that's fine, walk away and find a new hobby. It's that you think it should be killed of for definite rather than evolving with the times and remain for people who would like it.

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    Were those drinks good on YRossel's tab? Once again I knew it. Lancia out. The next announcement. Current and only interested person/team/company break out the deal of buying WRC promoter rights.

    I kinda hit every nail this year with this predictions.

    So currently grid for 2027 looks like (full 14 rounds):
    -6xWRC27
    -2xRally2 Kit
    -none for Rally2 stock
    -maybe 1 or 2 WRC27 from Project Rally One, but higely unlikely.
    Last edited by deephouse; Today at 04:50.

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    F**king joke they made this championship to, every single decision they could get wrong they did, but what can we expect when for the last 5 years now we have a dictator and in case you missed it, they just voted for him to have unlimited domination.
    Only you know your true potential.
    #42 #For_Craig

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    Remember that this sport is very close to his heart, so he is "clearly" not trying to ruin it. Maybe a revenge for bad language affair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRCStan View Post
    Without long haul events you don't have a World championship - FIA rules.
    And without the permanent teams you don't have a commercial championship or promoter.
    Without these there's no WRC.

    When you said "they could simply go for Rally2 as top class", it sounds like you would have the answers. Here's some answers made public:

    M-Sport do nothing without a promoter
    Lancia and Skoda don't want permanent participation
    Hyundai's future is customer racing
    Toyota not interested and you kicked them out.

    So it falls to teams as you mentioned being supported by the WRC and event promoters. But the new promoter is not interested in them nor their cars, which is why there is this new kit.

    That WRC is dead to you doesn't make you an arsehole, that's fine, walk away and find a new hobby. It's that you think it should be killed of for definite rather than evolving with the times and remain for people who would like it.
    2 long haul events are enough. Smaller calendar is a good thing.
    Lancia, Skoda and Hyundai, that don't want works team nor permanent partecipation, might like a Rally2 championship in which you're required a minimum number of events, instead of all of them. M-Sport too, maybe. And maybe again, in the events they choose not to take part of, they can enter a local Rally2 driver with the same car, as it was used to.

    Why should I walk away, rallying is my favourite motorsport, If WRC is not suistanable anymore, it can go, leaving ERC as the main championship. It would be a shame, but some things don't last forever. I could ask you and the people in charge to go make a new motorsport in which you can use all the prototypes you want, instead of hijacking rallying and WRC, unfortunately it wouldn't matter.
    Your opinion that I'm a douchebag because I don't share your love for protos and rallies in each continent is not very relevant to me. I have the feeling that the "people who would like it" are not going to be many, judging by what many rally fans are saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    Were those drinks good on YRossel's tab? Once again I knew it. Lancia out. The next announcement. Current and only interested person/team/company break out the deal of buying WRC promoter rights.

    I kinda hit every nail this year with this predictions.

    So currently grid for 2027 looks like (full 14 rounds):
    -6xWRC27
    -2xRally2 Kit
    -none for Rally2 stock
    -maybe 1 or 2 WRC27 from Project Rally One, but higely unlikely.
    Might Latvala also do all the rounds with Printsport he bought last year? With his Toyota connections he could do this development driver Toyota B team.

    https://rallyjournal.com/jari-matti-...ul-rally-team/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferranis View Post
    The lateness of the Kit idea was bad enough, then the rules on entering all Rounds has killed it for all but M-Sport.
    #M-SPORTER

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    An engineer told me that GR Yaris WRC27 was slower than the Rally2.

    Hope they fixed that (if true).

    About WRT Rally1 Spain and Project Rally One, FIA said 10 cars need be fabricated to be homologated and they have enter 2 cars in all rounds.

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