WRC mainclass from 2027

[WRCStan]

It totally is long term solution, more so when the regs are designed for future flexibility in mind.

Rally2 sourced engine is just fancy phrasing for road-car derived engines, which is imo important.

I'm open to the spec, in the same way that the body has to be within the set volume.

But disagree that it has to go through group A first, 2,500 examples etc, when it's only the block being used - just a lump of metal - and road designed displacement is often ignored anyway as everything that bolts to it is made for purpose as it all transforms into a racing engine! With 10% by 2035 and manufs divesting their engine building because they don't want to be associated with them, the pool of potential suppliers is too small and the wrong crowd. And if a Horse can supply an engine (like it is supplying that Chevrolet a few pages back), why can't a pony provide engines that are built for purpose? That's the philosophy of all this.

It doesn't make sense. And market forces work so much better than cost caps on a very small group of disinterested suppliers.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice try

First of all, they aren’t my big names, they are most known I saw on the entry list, don’t care if they are there or not

Second of all, yeah let’s make conclusions already based on qualifying stage.

Third, this is off topic anyway

Not trying anything just replying and you were discussing it in this thread.

PS. The two 'names' arent even in the top 10 on SS1. The rally is competitive.... like WRC 27 should be.

PPS. Vaher fastest on SS1... you wouldnt like this possibility in WRC ?

[Kenneth]

You know what, in WRC it would be fluke, luck, better road position, crash incoming every second, etc.

Also it would just show how bad WRC become if Neuville and Ogier would be outside of top 5, all about a luck now /s

[saco0o]

Massive competition? Really?

mate, cmoon: suninen, marczyk, sesks, mabelini, creighton, matulka, tempestini, isak, calle, allen (meeeh lol), brynildsen, heikkila, semenuk

if this is not an impressive entry list i'd argue you are missing out on A LOT of fun by not watching something outside wrc =P

[Ferranis]

If only the Rally2 cars were not that boring for me personally. A shame, but I just can't watch them without going to sleep. They need a reset too in my opinion. The initial iteration of them, the R5 were wonderful cars: https://youtu.be/IbdD6T6hLz0?t=25

[wyler]

Not trying anything just replying and you were discussing it in this thread.

PS. The two 'names' arent even in the top 10 on SS1. The rally is competitive.... like WRC 27 should be.

PPS. Vaher fastest on SS1... you wouldnt like this possibility in WRC ?

point is all about context. erc and wrc are way apart.

this may be a good (or massive) competition for the erc level, but it doesn't mean wrc will be the same. wrc level is way ahead i fear.
take top5 in sweden now: 2 super local expert +3 "wrc" material - but not prime material. suninen didn't really make it at top level, sesks is struggling after a brilliant entry. vaher is the toyota bet for the future, all to be discovered. they're already getting a gap to anyone else after 1 loop, just a couple of the super local are fighting.

to me, it looks very like what we have now. wrc2 with good competition, around 10 drivers "top tier" in rally1 (that will remain ahead), possibly some surprises (sesk, armstrong, possibly vaher in the future). i don't see different cars erasing this drivers difference.

[Ferranis]

I think the school of thought that we will have more competition next year due to more drivers having "equal" machienery will be quite disappointed. WRC1 drivers are in the WRC1 for a reason. The only thing hat will happen is that the gap between WRC1 and WRC2 is not that big on average

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Thing is, even with the very top guys in Rally 1 cars, there is still seem as not enough competition as the Toyota is a different level to the Hyundai & Ford.

Of course there's always been car differences, but the level can still be closer with many makes of Rally2 & WRC27. The top guys will still be the top guys but there's still possibilities for more locals and new stars to challenge them.

[WRCStan]

The higher the likelihood of a larger field, the lower the likelihood of the top guys being there. And that has nothing to do with the top guys running scared.

[deephouse]

Many of guys being in top wasn't supposed being there as their results did prove why were they there.