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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    maybe because they will be in short supply. toyota seems to build only about 30 rally2 cars a year.
    Most likely in short supply, but dishing out 400k for an unproven und un-competitive RallyOne / RMC, I don't see it. Then I would stay with my Rally2 (if I had one )

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    This week's Rally Scandinavia willl be excellent preview of 2027 WRC - massive competition on beautiful gravel roads - worth to watch as R2 is expected to be faster than 2027 model cars.

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    Absolutely devestating comments below each WRC27 video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbo2I-n_r30

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    I hope those commenters didn't vote for it. A universal customer class car was what the people wanted, and it's what they will get. It shows though why RC1 will return down the line.

    However, a car in development is not always going to be ran flat out. Sometimes it's just hours and Kms, though more likely at validation and not needing Tanak. Don't read too much into it. The real judgement will come on the stages in competition.

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    Ogier's decision for next year will speak volumes about the WRC27 Car.

    If I were Toyota (or the WRC Promoter) I'd do everything to convince him to continue. That would do a huge amount for the image of the new cars.

    If he retires and gives his main reason as the new cars that will be quite an indictment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    I remember certain members here repeating all the time “the top drivers will make the cars look interesting by pushing them to the limit”

    So guys, we have many videos by now with one of the fastest guys testing the Toyota and are you still saying the same?

    For me it’s just painful to watch
    Tanak may be a different story, given he has such a lot still to gain in terms of WDCs. As long as the new car can win him the Title he will be in it regardless of how it looks and sounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferranis View Post
    Most likely in short supply, but dishing out 400k for an unproven und un-competitive RallyOne / RMC, I don't see it. Then I would stay with my Rally2 (if I had one )
    rally2 will end its homologation cycle in a few years (around 2030). then there will be a need for a replacement that will be wrc27, with some mileage under the belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRCStan View Post
    I hope those commenters didn't vote for it. A universal customer class car was what the people wanted, and it's what they will get. It shows though why RC1 will return down the line.

    However, a car in development is not always going to be ran flat out. Sometimes it's just hours and Kms, though more likely at validation and not needing Tanak. Don't read too much into it. The real judgement will come on the stages in competition.
    it's just the standard complaining about novelty. it happens every time. then as the season approach and development goes one, with a bit of real bodywork and colours, the excitement grows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyler View Post
    it's just the standard complaining about novelty. it happens every time. then as the season approach and development goes one, with a bit of real bodywork and colours, the excitement grows.
    I doubt that. WRC27 are Rally2 cars with extra steps. They won't suddenly get more powerful or audio-visually more exciting.

    WRC27 might be good regs for Rally2, but for the top class its as if F1 would drive with F2 cars

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    This is what (most) people wanted.
    Since the Rally1 era started many on this forum, and other comments on all platforms have been calling for Rally2 to become the top class because of the equal machinery, lower cost and (supposed) more competition. Well WRC27 is the follow on from Rally2 so what people have been calling for is now going to become reality.

    I was never fully sold about it, if I am honest, but I did understand the argument. I do really hope some of the other cars being built turn out to sound nicer than the Toyota, as this would help immensely, the 3 cylinder just sounds so flat to me.

    I will really miss the drama of the Rally1 cars which were a follow on from the most exciting cars ever IMO (WRC17) but things must move on. I just hope it is in the right direction.
    I actually feel for the rule makers (I know most people do not) as I feel they had to try something and they were damned no matter what way they went about it.

    Anyway here we are and I will continue to follow rallying until my dying breath. I'm not so sure about others.

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