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    Quote Originally Posted by WRCStan View Post
    Then it's basically the promoter's entries. If WRC was a promoter-less cup, how many would we see? None, times have changed for car companies and we don't see them in ERC and nationals like days of old.
    There were not manufacturers in ERC or national championships, it was dealer teams, which is different. Manufacturers are interested mainly about highest category and homologating the cars. But if the promotion of the championship is shit and they are not able to promote the sport in proper way, there is no interest in joining. From manufacturers, from potential sponsors. There were some of them trying to join, but when they see how it is working...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferranis View Post
    Ferrari / Lambo
    Surely not going to come if a production run of 25,000 4 seats models rule is in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    But if the promotion of the championship is shit and they are not able to promote the sport in proper way, there is no interest in joining. From manufacturers, from potential sponsors. There were some of them trying to join, but when they see how it is working...
    Sorry but how it's working is what everyone must accept is that it's working. Just about for now, but assuming there's a new promoter coming also assumes it'll continue working this way.

    We shouldn't confuse sports promotion with publicity especially for ESL speakers here, and specifically publicity of the competitors sponsors. It's another archaic fallacy. It's not the job of WRC Promoter to publicise the entrants' sponsors. Sure it can be part of an unwritten bilateral win, but didn't the promoter's sponsor Hankook ban one of the entrants from taking to a stage recently as it had a rival's sponsor?

    FIA are happy with this kind of deal and many Red Bulls were sold during this promoter's stint and WRC2/3 participation is also generally healthy throughout. So is it shit promotion? Promoter done good! Do you realistically expect this kind of arrangement to change? Have it go back to a cup where the regs have to 'attract' participation? Don't have any TV rights or commercial deals... Don't have anybody broadcasting it even?

    Not a chance. Look at WRX for what happens when a promoter goes walkies.

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    Yet another constructor/tuner rumoured to be eyeing a 2027 entry.

    Question is: Will all these new entries have any meaningful impact, championship-wise?

    https://www.instagram.com/p/DYXHby3R...FreGFqbjQzcw==

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    I see it that way. If there will be many tuners, some may do well. Maybe later on they could persuade manufacturers into the sport and back them up. Wouldn't be that easier for manufacturers?

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    I really hope they will have an impact. Realistically though they all will perform worse then M-Sport and most likely quit quite quickly.

    Since how do they even expect to be financed? Car sales for sure not, there is no market for 50 WRC27 and why should one buy a RallyOne when one could buy a Toyota

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferranis View Post
    I really hope they will have an impact. Realistically though they all will perform worse then M-Sport and most likely quit quite quickly.

    Since how do they even expect to be financed? Car sales for sure not, there is no market for 50 WRC27 and why should one buy a RallyOne when one could buy a Toyota
    I think yoy may be underestimating the amount on Rally2 cars being owned by small private teams. At some point the current Rally2 cars will be outdated and they have to buy something new. If the WRC27 is in a similar price range, then it would not be a bad decision.

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    Do Rally2 cars have budget cap? I know that they vary in prices. I'm afraid that with WRC27 the story will be different. All of them will go to the absolute maximum, 345,000. But the performance could be very different. And we could end up with Toyota having huge sales and everyone else nothing.

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    I would wager people will be reluctant to switch until the WR27 are proven. And in general why should they if their Rally2 is still competetive (to take FIA by the word here, reality will be interesting)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferranis View Post
    And dominating or not, my god is this car boring: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou4T-lotbl0

    Rally3 are more exciting...
    I remember certain members here repeating all the time “the top drivers will make the cars look interesting by pushing them to the limit”

    So guys, we have many videos by now with one of the fastest guys testing the Toyota and are you still saying the same?

    For me it’s just painful to watch

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