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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferranis View Post
    It's "just" that R2 now also score for WRC1, or is it?
    Not really such a thing as WRC1, if you mean the World Driver and Codriver Championship, it always was like this. If you mean the World Manufacturer's championship, it's what I've been sceptical of for many pages.

    If Rally2s do go scoring for 'WRC1' manufacturers/constructors/teams; then WRC2 is redundant.

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    I agree with Fast Eddie WRC’s analysis. If you compare today’s Rally2 cars with the S2000 and the first-generation Rally2 cars like the Citroën DS3 and the Peugeot 208 T16 (back when it was still Rally5), they’re too efficient in terms of driving style, and the sound is also much quieter. They make less noise and don’t feel like they’re driving on the “limit” as much. This has nothing to do with horsepower. In my personal opinion, too much aero isn’t good for the sport either.

    (I’m new here; I’ve been following these forums for years. I’ve finally managed to log in. This has been a source of information for me for years and I hope it doesn’t die out completely. That’s why I’ve decided to get more actively involved now)

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    Almost no car is boring when it's being driven by a good driver. When rc2's are being driven on the limit, they aren't boring.
    It's just that most rc2's aren't driven by top drivers.

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    Just watch ERC from Sweden in 1 months time, its not boring i can tell you.

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    It’s definitely a huge downgrade in terms of speed, power, and spectacle, but I’ll take a highly competitive field any day. As they say, top drivers will push Rally2 cars to the absolute limit. Since the cars aren’t as powerful, they’ll take even more risks in the corners to avoid braking and carry as much speed as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skarderud View Post
    Just watch ERC from Sweden in 1 months time, its not boring i can tell you.

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    Deal. I will keep that in mind although I know the answer already

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    Deal. I will keep that in mind although I know the answer already
    Don't you remember Tänak in 2014 ERC Rally Estonia, where he basically drove the sht out of that R5 Fiesta? I mean it was a spectacle to watch him. And those cars are much slower than today's Rally2 cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flat_right View Post
    Don't you remember Tänak in 2014 ERC Rally Estonia, where he basically drove the sht out of that R5 Fiesta? I mean it was a spectacle to watch him. And those cars are much slower than today's Rally2 cars.
    Such a different times. Back then we didn’t have no idea about 2017 generation cars and current cars.

    I’ve been to every rally Finland since 2015 and also every rally Estonia and the difference is huge with rally2.

    Of course you will get used to it in the end but the drop will be huge in the beginning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skarderud View Post
    Just watch ERC from Sweden in 1 months time, its not boring i can tell you.
    Your video from Finland 2016 shows enough. The WRC cars then were plenty exciting and Meeke set the record times.

    WRC27 & Rally2 Cars wont be much different to those cars from 10 years ago.


    https://youtu.be/Q42jT7AsNFE?si=QoIB7V2q98Lw4ts3

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    Remember that there will be no better cars to compare with, 2026 Rally1 cars will be gone, and the pace will be set with Rally2/WRC27 cars so the spectacle will be there. Also I think many of those non-regular or local drivers could actually be in the mix if the performance will be close. The only thing that stopping them could be manufacturers/tuners bring them worse cars (non-evolution), but that is higely unprofessional. Also I think that if those tho cars would be similar in performance, one thong is clear, Rally2 could be way more reliable from start, so we could expect more or less Rally2's on the top of leaderboard (I'm not worried about Toyo-tank)

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