WRC mainclass from 2027

**Ferranis** · Yesterday, 19:00

Originally Posted by deephouse

And 2 of those two will not be ready by the time. So how the championship will look like in contructors view. Toyota WRT. That's it. And even if they will enter in the middle of the season. There will not be enough events to catch the Toyota drivers and their team. So the 2027 looks a bit pointless. Except if they postpone the whole thing until 2028 and all run Rally2 cars.

It is fine and dandy that you can build a car now for "cheap" as a tuner. But how is it expected from them to compete with Toyotas budget?

We will see 1-5 Toyota every rally now (on Performance), like today...

**denkimi** · Yesterday, 20:23

Originally Posted by Ferranis

It is fine and dandy that you can build a car now for "cheap" as a tuner. But how is it expected from them to compete with Toyotas budget?

We will see 1-5 Toyota every rally now (on Performance), like today...

We just need 3 more toyota's for Neuville, Fourmaux and Armstrong, and we will have a better championship than today. A cheaper one also.

**WRCStan** · Yesterday, 20:57

Originally Posted by deephouse

And 2 of those two will not be ready by the time. So how the championship will look like in contructors view. Toyota WRT. That's it. And even if they will enter in the middle of the season. There will not be enough events to catch the Toyota drivers and their team. So the 2027 looks a bit pointless. Except if they postpone the whole thing until 2028 and all run Rally2 cars.

Fair point, but all they need is the Rally2s entering the rallies, an official Toyota team and a couple of supported bodywork-variant teams running Toyotas to feign a competition in a constructors championship similar to what's on today.

Still can't see them having a title for the FIA World Rally Championship for Manufacturers or Constructors when homologation of WRC27 comes with a requirement of a full and a half season commitment and Rally2 teams are rocking up being supported, because they won't be doing it alone.

**Kenneth** · Today, 00:05

Originally Posted by WRCStan

Right, but they didn't. They want to encourage the new cars across the sport, not just RallyTV. There's now 3 constructors with rumours of more teams. It's already enough not to need Rally2s in a championship.

But they did??? Why is this conversation here every few weeks when we already know that Rally2 will be a top category for the next seasons, next to WRC27?

**Ferranis** · Today, 08:30

Originally Posted by Kenneth

But they did??? Why is this conversation here every few weeks when we already know that Rally2 will be a top category for the next seasons, next to WRC27?

Personal oppinion, but if the Rally2 were not so darn boring. Current rally has quite extended WRC2 coverage and I am bored to death. No sound, no agression, slow, drive like on rails. Sad times incomming

**WRCStan** · Today, 08:54

Originally Posted by Kenneth

But they did??? Why is this conversation here every few weeks when we already know that Rally2 will be a top category for the next seasons, next to WRC27?

Did they? If they do have Rally2s in a teams type championship it's a bizarre move and a shot in the foot.

Edit: I'd said they didn't move solely to Rally2s. Good example why this is a repetitive conversation.

**deephouse** · Today, 10:41

Rally2 aren't boring. It's the championship which rarely gets all main competitors aligned on a single event. Not everyone goes anywhere. But it's clear something. Those who compete for WRC2, have always some one-off or local specialist to beat and usually isn't just cruising. There is no one in WRC1 who would mix that up (sure it was Solberg last year, but he quickly become Toyota member because of that. Maybe this will change in coming years with tuner teams.

Also I wonder what will they do with this WRC2 concept and entering events. Not everyone can afford full schedule and I think that many do like this support championship, because they can choose which events to go to. If WRC27 and Rally2 will all compete in main category alongside, surely many out of them won't stand a chance, since they will not be present on all 14-15-16 events. Will they keep WRC2 for those who will compete "part-time" and WRC for those who will commit to full season? What will Lancia do? Do they have that much budget. Also Skoda...

**Ferranis** · Today, 10:49

Originally Posted by deephouse

Rally2 aren't boring. It's the championship which rarely gets all main competitors aligned on a single event. Not everyone goes anywhere. But it's clear something. Those who compete for WRC2, have always some one-off or local specialist to beat and usually isn't just cruising. There is no one in WRC1 who would mix that up (sure it was Solberg last year, but he quickly become Toyota member because of that. Maybe this will change in coming years with tuner teams.

Also I wonder what will they do with this WRC2 concept and entering events. Not everyone can afford full schedule and I think that many do like this support championship, because they can choose which events to go to. If WRC27 and Rally2 will all compete in main category alongside, surely many out of them won't stand a chance, since they will not be present on all 14-15-16 events. Will they keep WRC2 for those who will compete "part-time" and WRC for those who will commit to full season? What will Lancia do? Do they have that much budget. Also Skoda...

I think two opinions clash here. For me they are boring. They miss at least 100ps and more aero to be exiting (for the top class, for "F2" they are ok)

For the other topic: There must be still the WRC2 championship I hope. It's "just" that R2 now also score for WRC1, or is it?

**Fast Eddie WRC** · Today, 11:38

Cars have become boring because they've become too good, too sophisticated. They have been made fast in place of exciting and fun.

Most people watch on tv and dont get the real impression of speed so the cars look boring as they dont slide around due to the fancy aero & suspension.

I dont see any way to fix this as you can never really go back in development. Although maybe the WRC27 cars fron the Tuners could be 'worse' so fun to watch.

**WRCStan** · Today, 11:47

Originally Posted by deephouse

Will they keep WRC2 for those who will compete "part-time" and WRC for those who will commit to full season?

Very possibly so. As a base logic, World Rally Championship for Constructors (or WRC27 teams) and WRC2 for Rally2 drivers and co-drivers until they're fully deprecated makes sense. WDC/WCC for all.

But still with who knows what for next year of course.

Thank you.