WRC mainclass from 2027

[deephouse]

Ogier competition when he won every title:
-2008 (JWRC)
-1. Ogier - 42pt
-2. Burkart - 34pt
-3. Prokop - 32pt
Also there was Abbring on 13th place.

-2013:
-1. Ogier - 290pt
-2. Neuville - 176pt
-3. Latvala - 162pt

Loeb was there only for 4 events, there was Evans on 12th place.

-2014:
-1. Ogier - 267pt
-2. Latvala - 218pt
-3. Mikkelsen - 150pt

Neuville 6th, Meeke 7th, Evans 8th, Tanak 15th

-2015:
-1. Ogier - 263pt
-2. Latvala - 183pt
-3. Mikkelsen - 171pt

Meeke - 5th, Neuville 6th, Evans 7th, Tanak 10th, Loeb only one event

-2016:
-1. Ogier - 268pt
-2. Neuville - 160pt
-3. Mikkelsen - 154pt

Latvala ended on 6th place, Tanak 8th, Meeke 9th, Evans on 21th

-2017:
-1. Ogier - 232pt
-2. Neuville - 208pt
-3. Tanak - 191pt

Latvala 4th, Evans 5th, Meeke 7th, Mikkelsen didn't drive whole season - ended on 12th place

-2018:
-1. Ogier - 219pt
-2. Neuville - 201pt
-3. Tanak - 181pt

Latvala 4th, Mikkelsen 6th, Evans 7th, Loeb drove three events, Meeke 14th, Rovanpera 22th

-2020:
-1. Ogier - 122pt
-2. Evans - 114pt
-3. Tanak - 105pt

Neuville 4th, Rovanpera 5th, Loeb drove only 2 events, Solberg 17th

-2021:
-1. Ogier - 230pt
-2. Evans - 207pt
-3. Neuville - 176pt

Rovanpera 4th, Tanak 5th, Solberg 13th

-2025:
-1. Ogier - 293pt
-2. Evans - 289pt
-3. Rovanpera - 256pt

Tanak 4th, Neuville 5th, Solberg 9th.

Of course there was VW factor, absolute dominant force in his prime years, but when they left he struggle at Ford and still won, then in Citroen he wasn't good and Tanak was the first non-french driver who break french dominance in WRC over those years. He was then in Toyota and we look closely that all those drivers did step up their game and it became very difficult for Ogier to clearly won titles, so I'm sure he starts doing it part time because of that and not solely because his family. If he wanted that, he would retire already. Of course he is GOAT, but still... If there were 4-5 title contenders in field or those who already won it (Latvala, Loeb, Mikkelsen, Meeke, and all those who are here today), he would not have that easy job. Probably he would win it most, but not all that he did. In last two years the opportunity came, because everyone seems step down in adaption for hybridless cars and his part time races (which in my opinion hedid well). There was also factor he grab the opportunity to not be the first on road. So he is a GOAT but is playing very dirty and I think that he will want to contest in this new cars, at least for a year or two. And I think he is hungry for 10th title which nobody probably will ever beat that record.

[Kenneth]

I wouldn't say he wasn't good in Citroën in 2019, the car was simply fragile shit, yet he was able to take multiple wins.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

You're way off topic lads.

Back to the WRC27... Toyota has back-to-back tested vs the Yaris Rally2:

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/toyot...r-with-rally2/

[focus206]

I wouldn't say he wasn't good in Citroën in 2019, the car was simply fragile shit, yet he was able to take multiple wins.

Fragile? Ogier had 0 DNFs in 2019 due to technical trouble. Only technical problems were 2 times broken powersteering, in a whole season (which of course was enough to make Ogier and his wife rage). C3 WRC wasn't slow nor unreliable, it was difficult to drive and setup, everything else is revisionism to excuse Ogier.

Yes, sorry for the OT.

[WRCStan]

Like he ever wanted to have a strong field. His most titles came when he haven't got so much direct competition. Kalle and Tanak break that, then he starts compete only "half" programmes. Then Neuville step up, Evans became very strong, Solberg this year and is a matter of time when Pajari and Fourmaux will be strong candidates for titles too. I don't know when WRC had such a strong field the last time. Yes, of xourse Kalle and Tanak left, but still have a feeling they will came back.

Neuville has stepped up since Ogier went part time? He has only won 7 events since end 2021. 2017-covid he was class.

[deephouse]

https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...ship/10808070/

Not currently WRC related but it's something. Subaru making new car for Japan rallying.



https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/toyot...r-with-rally2/

Interesting comments from Fowler.

Fowler continued: “I’m pretty sure that everybody’s expecting that we’re the ones doing the new car. And a new [car] is always faster, right? Therefore, everything’s done and dusted and easy… but when I look at our job list of what we have to achieve before Monte Carlo with the 2027 car, it would be much easier just to rock up there with a Rally2 car that we already did.”
Toyota won’t be doing that. Toyota’s vision is longer-term and goes beyond what’s being talked of as a transition year before more constructors and manufacturers arriving with 2027-specification cars in 2028.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Speaking of Neuville... he doesnt know his future but it seems he does want to continue after this year:

“The desire would be to continue. The championship probably does not want well-known drivers to jump ship. In my opinion, they need them because they bring a certain level of recognition. Rebuilding a championship with ‘unknown’ drivers would be even more difficult.”

More:
https://rallyjournal.com/will-thierr...o-idea-at-all/

[Andre Oliveira]

Rumours about RMC build a WRC27 FIAT based.

[Steve Boyd]

https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...ship/10808070/

Not currently WRC related but it's something. Subaru making new car for Japan rallying.

Looks quite like the Toyota WRC27 test car, particularly the roof line.

[Eli]

Rumours about RMC build a WRC27 FIAT based.

Pardon my ignorance but who’s RMC?