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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    Hello OldF.
    Been a while, I think.
    Welcome back.
    Thanks Rallyper,

    The past 2,5 year of my life haven’t been the best time of my life. Few surgery, a broken / compressed vertebra which is still affecting my walking. For about two years I didn’t even follow any rallying.

    I don’t know how much news I have missed during this time. For example I was surprised how much the price of a rally2 has increased. A Citroen C3 rally2 was little below 200 00 euros a while ago and now 231 000 euros without the option kit. The Lancia rally2’s price is 268 000 euros without the option kit. Is the price increase because of changes in regulations or increased costs due to economic inflation?

    Citroen
    https://boutique.citroenracing.com/m...a93b426c0a.pdf

    Lancia
    https://lancia-corsehf.com/modules/a...82303eb8e7.pdf
    “Don’t eat the yellow snow” Frank Zappa

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    Skoda will not have official team. And will not build new car for highest category (at least in first year, later maybe as it will not be allowed to build new Rally2 car according to current results).
    Might they extend more support to Toksport so that they could run two permanent drivers for the whole 2027 season? If Rally2 cars should have parity with WRC27 it would be a shame if they didn’t have a go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldF View Post
    Thanks Rallyper,

    The past 2,5 year of my life haven’t been the best time of my life. Few surgery, a broken / compressed vertebra which is still affecting my walking. For about two years I didn’t even follow any rallying.

    I don’t know how much news I have missed during this time. For example I was surprised how much the price of a rally2 has increased. A Citroen C3 rally2 was little below 200 00 euros a while ago and now 231 000 euros without the option kit. The Lancia rally2’s price is 268 000 euros without the option kit. Is the price increase because of changes in regulations or increased costs due to economic inflation?

    Citroen
    https://boutique.citroenracing.com/m...a93b426c0a.pdf

    Lancia
    https://lancia-corsehf.com/modules/a...82303eb8e7.pdf
    Toyota is ca 350k

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    The WRCWings article is based on “Décryptage du WRC27 avec Lionel Hansen” youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-HMEQAfX04 (15.1.2026)

    2.2.2026
    https://www.wrcwings.tech/2026/02/02...eds-rally-one/

    All mechanical components must be sourced from current Rally2 manufacturers, and teams are allowed to cherry-pick components from different manufacturers during the development stage, according to Mr. Hansen — something that contradicts earlier FIA statements. The mechanical base of the Prospeed’s Rally One will entirely come from the Škoda Fabia RS Rally2.

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    allowed to cherry-pick components from different manufacturers.
    This is different from earlier statements:

    20.8.2026
    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/what-...c-2027-so-far/
    “A tuner will have to align with a single manufacturer running a currently homologated car”
    “It’s not possible to cherry-pick components from various manufacturers”

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    What is included in the mechanical base?

    Quote Originally Posted by WRCStan View Post
    Also, something is lost in translation maybe with Lluis/WRCWings. "All mechanical components must be sourced from current Rally2 manufacturers". I don't think is true. Hansen only refers to the engine I think
    Quote Originally Posted by wyler View Post
    i think mechanical is referring to powertrain (including driveshafts, brakes), as suspension regulation will be different from rally2.
    20.2.2026
    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/first...-car-revealed/
    While precise technical details of the car are still to be confirmed, a Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 engine is understood to have been deployed in the all-new chassis.

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    I think we have to wait until Christmas eve before everything is clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldF View Post
    allowed to cherry-pick components from different manufacturers.
    This is different from earlier statements:

    20.8.2026
    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/what-...c-2027-so-far/
    “A tuner will have to align with a single manufacturer running a currently homologated car”
    “It’s not possible to cherry-pick components from various manufacturers”
    That Dirtfish definition of Tuner is wrong to me, but as the FIA publications from November/December didn't use the word, I think that's best practice. Just confuses.

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    Well that definition of tuner was correct, the keyword is was, because now there are no tuners and no manufacturers, just constructors.

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    Is it cost efficient to go the bodywork route? Manufacturing in house say rather than ordering replacement panels from Toyota. Surely it's the only reason?

    Still can't see Toyota permitting this but can see Prospeed doing it because of the shared production quota fill. And the promoter wanting teams with unique identity lol. Maybe a Printsport team will have their own bodywork on a Toyota car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth View Post
    That's something that was in older ruleset draft, but it isn't a case.
    it's confused, because there's still no definitive regulations, but as a matter of fact, the same prospeed sourced all the mechanical parts from skoda, not cherry picking. we will see the last revision of. regs in 2027...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth View Post
    Well that definition of tuner was correct
    It wasn't correct. Tuners was first mentioned to say that the non-manufacturer motorsport industry could build a car from scratch. Like Prospeed.

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    Yes, that was the first pitch, not sure if it was even official. It was around August (not sure exactly) when FIA introduced Tuners as someone who could only build own bodywork on a car fully sourced by a Manufacturer, before scratching both terms and introducing Constructers in December, which makes no distinction between manus and tuners.

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