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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    I do not think Neuville was on a cheating tour...
    I didn't see it if you mean the severity of it didn't warrant any punishment. I read that you thought only cash penalty IS fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRCStan View Post
    I didn't see it if you mean the severity of it didn't warrant any punishment. I read that you thought only cash penalty IS fair.
    I mean cash penalty would be enough for this. Not being a decider of the whole rally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    I mean cash penalty would be enough for this. Not being a decider of the whole rally.
    I disagree, you're given the rules, you follow the rules and you take safety elements seriously. It's part of the game same as hitting chicanes, late check in.... Cash only fines gives rich people license to do what they want.

    Like, to most people, a sign saying 'NO PARKING - €300 FINE' is a deterrent not to park there. Rich people read 'PARKING €300' and park there. Unless there is wheel-clamping there is no difference in those signs.

    Edit: If Neuville broke the code, he gets the punishment else no point having the rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    But it seems more and more that they just want to get as much as money and don't offer nothing or at least minimal to fans.

    I mean in Monte there was some footage from Solberg, when he spun on hairpin and it says fan footage. So it's possible to adapt fans shots, if "the camera crew" is too expensive and too complex to involve.
    I also get a sense of cost-cutting in Rally.tv these last few years.

    If there is a gap in the coverage from the first two cars, they could tackle it with more cameras and radio relays. Instead they have less coverage and hide it by starting later.

    I'm not sure that I mind the delayed start personally, because I just watch the stage on rally.tv, so in a way they are editing out the "dead air" for me. But if I was also looking at live timing or something like that, this would be infuriating. And rally.tv is the product for the most committed fans, people who watch the whole of the stages not just the highlights, so they are relatively likely to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WRCStan View Post
    I disagree, you're given the rules, you follow the rules and you take safety elements seriously. It's part of the game same as hitting chicanes, late check in.... Cash only fines gives rich people license to do what they want.

    Like, to most people, a sign saying 'NO PARKING - €300 FINE' is a deterrent not to park there. Rich people read 'PARKING €300' and park there. Unless there is wheel-clamping there is no difference in those signs.

    Edit: If Neuville broke the code, he gets the punishment else no point having the rule.
    Disagree totally to that. The bottom of your relative talk is everyone want to break safety rules. This was not about getting the best parking spot in a city by just paying fines. You need to haver better perspective than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    I mean cash penalty would be enough for this. Not being a decider of the whole rally.
    Not doing your helmet up is stupid, and deserves a penalty that can mean you can lose a rally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    I mean in Monte there was some footage from Solberg, when he spun on hairpin and it says fan footage. So it's possible to adapt fans shots, if "the camera crew" is too expensive and too complex to involve.
    I doubt you'd have seen fan footage in that stage's live show. Maybe hours afterwards or in highlights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    You need to haver better perspective than that.
    Actually, you're right. They can make the sport a lot simpler and cheaper then and get rid of helmets altogether. Balaclavas, HANS too. They're just opportunities for stupid penalties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyfiend View Post
    Not doing your helmet up is stupid, and deserves a penalty that can mean you can lose a rally.
    It is only Ogier who always gets away with things like this

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    Greg Munster doing great job at stage end intervieuw's

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