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    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/skoda...27-rally1-car/
    No hope for our european manufacturers I see…can’t blame them tbh with the “level” of promotion within the series, but I’m tired of hearing the cars and everything is too expensive while these manufacturers spend billions on stupid advertising yet €80 million for them is too much…(guessing 80 from the VW days)…ffs, roll on 2030 I guess…
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/skoda...27-rally1-car/
    No hope for our european manufacturers I see…can’t blame them tbh with the “level” of promotion within the series, but I’m tired of hearing the cars and everything is too expensive while these manufacturers spend billions on stupid advertising yet €80 million for them is too much…(guessing 80 from the VW days)…ffs, roll on 2030 I guess…
    This sounds like the tech regs themselves just haven't been built right for manufacturers, but for small garagistes.

    And can they afford to really run full world programmes on the back of driver money?!

    If Lancia and Skoda want no part of it, who have they really been built for?

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    Probably M-sport and prodrive?

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    RIP WRC as series 2027
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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    RIP WRC as series 2027
    How?

    I think this is better than today, lets wait some months to see who's join before we be to negative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/skoda...27-rally1-car/
    No hope for our european manufacturers I see…can’t blame them tbh with the “level” of promotion within the series, but I’m tired of hearing the cars and everything is too expensive while these manufacturers spend billions on stupid advertising yet €80 million for them is too much…(guessing 80 from the VW days)…ffs, roll on 2030 I guess…
    The current Fabia road car’s life will be extended until 2030, maybe after that they will reconsider.

    The article doesn’t say they won’t be involved in a WRC programme with the Rally2 car though. Maybe a bigger programme than now is possible, even if it’s still with Toksport.

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    If we discount Toyota, it will be hard for any OEM to commit to building a WRC27 car until they know more about the Promoter, who else will be taking part and if they could be competitive.

    This is true even for marques with Rally2 cars which are recent (Skoda) or new (Lancia) when they've already spent a chunk of money making or developing them.

    If even Hyundai and M-Sport cant take the plunge and are going to run their dated Rally2 cars then the WRC really is in a bad way.

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    I believe there is ''no'' new promoter and are still searching for one, because how many times did they postpone announcement already. Also this 10 tuner story smells to me just copy-paste 9 WRC27 projects on table (just added one to sound ''better) as been reported few weeks ago. If anyone would want to commit to it, it would already do, because there is not much time left (10 months). Nobody will build the car, test it and run programme. I even don't hear or read any story about Toyota actually confirming they will enter the WRC2027 season. Nothing. And I seriouslyy believe, that Prospeed will not be ready for Monte 2027. FIA and key people in charge for WRC did missed the last possible date for announcing the rules and especially to find new promoter (at the start of 2025 or maybe the last last time in the middle of 2025.

    So what will the WRC 2027 look like. Rally2 cars competing against each other. There is more than enough manufacturers or teams that can run those cars (Toyota, Lancia, Skoda, Hyundai, M-Sport and then there you have privateers with Citroen, and all those cars mentioned)... Or there will be no WRC 2027 season at all. If we try to stay positive, believe me, drivers who says that Rally2 cars or WRC27 cars will be too slow, when there will be no other option, they will drive slower cars. If they don't there is sea of fish who will instead of them (I have a feeling nobody will retire, because of that).

    If I'm honest, I would take that Rally2 top category for transitional period. One year, two, until the rules are perfectly clear (sorry but there is still so much confusion around, but what can we expect if it was released practically ''yesterday''), there is officially done deal with new promoter and their work on promotion actually start, and when there will be teams ready, and I mean really ready, not some sort half seasons bullshit. Until then, there is just one and only logical solution. Those top WRC drivers would make those Rally2 machines spectacular anyway.

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    If Rally2 will be similar in performance to the WRC27 cars what cars will run in WRC2 next year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    RIP WRC as series 2027
    RIP the users of this forum who are unprepared for and/or ignorant of how fast the world is changing.

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