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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    Also aspect of this nostalgy of having marathon events. Literally 4-5 world class drivers are saying that the format should shorten and that the calendar is too demanding for their lives. And when someone mention this problem, everyone goes that F1 have much more races on calendar. The world is moving towards more free time, and people do actually want some of that, even drivers.
    If I get you right, drivers in F1, don´t need more free time then, according to how you reasoning.
    So to sum up what do you want for changes then?
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    Rallies today are still long for the drivers. Recce starts Tuesday AM, the mandatory dinner on Sunday PM, including travel makes a 7/8 day working week for each rally. Add another day or two's stages it gets worse. But I don't think the drivers win if they want shorter working days AND fewer days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRCStan View Post
    Rallies today are still long for the drivers. Recce starts Tuesday AM, the mandatory dinner on Sunday PM, including travel makes a 7/8 day working week for each rally. Add another day or two's stages it gets worse. But I don't think the drivers win if they want shorter working days AND fewer days.
    It is much worse. Because you must add also pre-event tests. And recce sometimes starts also on Monday, so you need to be there with one day advance to make recce registration... It is easier for manufacture drivers who has lot of people around them, but more difficult for others...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRCStan View Post
    Rallies today are still long for the drivers. Recce starts Tuesday AM, the mandatory dinner on Sunday PM, including travel makes a 7/8 day working week for each rally. Add another day or two's stages it gets worse. But I don't think the drivers win if they want shorter working days AND fewer days.
    OK, so a 2½ day rally needs 7 or 8 days. If you shorten the rally to 1½ days it will still need 6 or 7 days. If the drivers want more time off then the WRC needs to have fewer events. The same applies to F1, taking a day off each event doesn't make that much difference they'll only get more free time by reducing the number of races.

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    Why? A ordinary man have to be at work for 40 hrs a week, at least. Many work nightshifts. Earning just scraps compared to professional rallydrivers. And you think (I believe not the drivers though) the are too busy and feel sorry for the guys?

    If you get 1- 5 million Euros a year, and maybe more, working "hard" for the money isn´t an issue. Shouldn´t be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    Why? A ordinary man have to be at work for 40 hrs a week, at least. Many work nightshifts. Earning just scraps compared to professional rallydrivers. And you think (I believe not the drivers though) the are too busy and feel sorry for the guys?

    If you get 1- 5 million Euros a year, and maybe more, working "hard" for the money isn´t an issue. Shouldn´t be.
    Well, our discussion on the subject "working hours - do we like them or not" leads nowhere, so let´s go back to the topic WRC 2027, and sum up some of us are not fooled by the whingeing of the drivers or old fans.

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    ARA will have this class, they say its 135k for "faster than a rally2 car"... wtf
    https://dirtfish.com/rally/ara/stryk...o-ara-in-2026/

    3cyl rotax turbo engine

    thats really awesome tbf haha love to see ""UTVs"" in rally - since "modern cars" are all boring hybrid SUVS now =P

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    Quote Originally Posted by saco0o View Post
    ARA will have this class, they say its 135k for "faster than a rally2 car"... wtf
    https://dirtfish.com/rally/ara/stryk...o-ara-in-2026/

    3cyl rotax turbo engine

    thats really awesome tbf haha love to see ""UTVs"" in rally - since "modern cars" are all boring hybrid SUVS now =P
    That wouldn't surprise me to see it in a 'rally racing' series, but won't ever be in WRC or European rallying. Can't imagine it on a tarmac stage and even the photos lack a codriver. But good luck to them, always nice to see human doings.

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