WRC mainclass from 2027

[Steve Boyd]

does the new rules have something like "if you build a wrc27 car you gotta build at least 10"?
i remember reading something but I couldnt find the article again. probably from dirt fish?
so if toyota is building the new car, they gotta build 10 so others can buy, right? (if that rule exsit, no idea if im imagining things now)

WRC 2025 Sporting Regulations art. 17.4.1 says a manufacturer cannot use more than 9 chassis in a season, so why should they be required to build at least 10?

[WRCStan]

WRC 2025 Sporting Regulations art. 17.4.1 says a manufacturer cannot use more than 9 chassis in a season, so why should they be required to build at least 10?

Creating the supply.

The homologation conditions for WRC27-type cars mandate the production of at least ten units within twenty-four months of the homologation date. Constructors must also be capable of supplying at least ten race-ready WRC27-type cars per calendar year to customers.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

"Constructor" is the same title given to F1 teams. But rally cars are cars, not single-seater racing machines.

They need to represent a road car to have any relevance to the public and fans.The idea of tuners fitting panels to look like a road car without that cars Manufacturer being the constructor makes no sense. Surely the Manufacturer has to come first and then have the tuner build and run the car for them.

[wyler]

WRC 2025 Sporting Regulations art. 17.4.1 says a manufacturer cannot use more than 9 chassis in a season, so why should they be required to build at least 10?

it's 10 in 2 years.

[wyler]

Going to Rally Journal in August, Tom Fowler said:

“What I understand is there’s a specific chapter that tells you how to build an engine for the championship. If you want to commit, you follow that chapter – all the information is clearly written down,” Fowler explained. “There’s also an appendix that says if a manufacturer or tuner has a different requirement – for a production engine, electrification, or similar – they can present it to the FIA.

But then Cyril said Hyundai needed a production engine they don't have.

i think this is about technology. they have rules for ice, they are open to discuss other types. probably hiunday hasn't a suitable ice.

[Kenneth]

Did Cyril forgot that they have Rally2 car, which indeed have an engine?

[deephouse]

Cyril is a joke, remember that. As long as he will be in the team, the team will be one leg and ahalf out of the sport.

[denkimi]

"Constructor" is the same title given to F1 teams. But rally cars are cars, not single-seater racing machines.

They need to represent a road car to have any relevance to the public and fans.The idea of tuners fitting panels to look like a road car without that cars Manufacturer being the constructor makes no sense. Surely the Manufacturer has to come first and then have the tuner build and run the car for them.

Why do they need to represent a road car? Why do they need to be relevant to the public?
If prodrive or M-sport wants to build a car under their own name, why should they not be allowed?

[focus206]

The idea of tuners fitting panels to look like a road car without that cars Manufacturer being the constructor makes no sense.

Or worse: tuner fitting panels on a frame, to make a "rally car" that doesn't even aesthetically resemble a road car. I hope that can't happen. I don't think it would go down well with many fans, if you take away even the bare minimum resemblance with a road car.

[deephouse]

Why do they need to represent a road car? Why do they need to be relevant to the public?
If prodrive or M-sport wants to build a car under their own name, why should they not be allowed?

Because the cars needs to be in accordance with regulations and laws for road use, since they also drive on public roads. Especially Europe have so strict rules that crews often gets some ban or high penalties on road sections... But I think that is because the cars needs to be homologated and it's easier and way cheaper - each part needs to be homologated, and some of those are very crucial for road safety, that means manufacturer use some easier ways to get things through laws.

Also as a fan, I do like the idea, that the rally car should be road revelant. I like the idea, that the car should look like it's pretty much normal, just like that on the road, but underneath it does hide it's real beast and of course tackle ever possible scenario, terrain, weather & condition. That's a recipe for sunday racing and monday selling. It worked before and could work again. Those big expensive spoilers belong on track. Having excuse it's all because just for safety reasons, it's stupid, because the latest deadly crash happen directly in too expensive space-frame non-sense (and of course even a expert fan doesn't even notice difference).

I believe they want to get something from past that's worked, combined with something from present and be open for future. I just hope that whoever will (again big IF), build this new car will not look like some sort of space-ship or kid drawing his first car.