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    Quote Originally Posted by Skunner View Post
    None of these roads were any more ‘fake man made’ than any other rally road. These were all existing gravel tracks that were developed for the event.

    If you want ‘fake man made’ go to Safari. And there are no complaints about them. Nor should there be!
    I doubt what you say is true.
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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    All roads are man-made and gravel stages need preventative/reparative care, but for man-made drama-show look no further than the jumps in the Baltic Sea area.

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    From TV and Video perspective - it looked very good. I had my doubts, but this rally has a real perspective; spectacular views. just they need to fix special tires. Saudi should invest in new-gen gravel tire, specially developed for rough environment - Hankook Desert Version.

    You will see, next year we will have much more fans, as i doubt they have so tough limitations with spectator zones as in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typ85 View Post
    Maybe the Loeb factor... In these years also the starting order had changed, maybe the first years when the champoinship leader opens the road.. i remember Ogier wining about the road cleaning, when the rules changed... its all up to the starting order.. maybe something must be changed there.. qualification stage before the rally (like ERC) would be the solution i guess...
    I don’t really understand why the quali stage has nit been introduced to WRC as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    I doubt what you say is true.
    Having been involved from the start in both events, this is one occasion where I would be 110% certain in my facts….

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    The stages I watched online looked good (1 on first day, two on both of the next two days).

    "Normal" gravel roads, some pretty spectacular like the descent on the stage where multiple drivers took the wrong junction. Also looked like there weren't any massive cutting issues like in the Qatar rally.

    Find it funny that "artificial" roads get mentioned when most gravel rallies in Europe added fully purpose made sections or stages the last few years and Safari is run on made up roads in a closed park.

    Yes there were many punctures, but drivers simply should adopt their style, like they did in Turkey a few years ago.

    The one major change I would do is not run the event as the final round of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COD View Post
    I don’t really understand why the quali stage has nit been introduced to WRC as well
    In theory the elites would be forming a runaway group after day 1 already. It'd be the same script most rallies but for weather. Choosing their start position could be marginally more entertaining.

    Take it that's Iain been biting his tongue here for 9 years. Hope you post more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COD View Post
    I don’t really understand why the quali stage has nit been introduced to WRC as well
    And with lovely "synchronisation" mode between WRC and ERC they were trying to kill qualifying also in ERC few years ago. Thanks god they didnt succeeded...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Yes there were many punctures, but drivers simply should adopt their style, like they did in Turkey a few years ago.
    Yeah imo people totally ignore this. When I've watched the Saturday's puncture drama, most of it was drivers' mistakes. They were cutting even when there were big stones, which also led to throwing the stones into the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/o...85691/5285691/

    Well what we have here. Ogier complaining that the "guest drivers" should be driving first in 2018. Funny that he is doing exactly this... Oh wait. He is doing that to win the title(s).
    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Good find !.Someone should show him this old quote and see what he says.
    Why?

    He called the FIA out on the rule and they didn't change it so why shouldn't he use it to his advantage now when he feels he's been disadvantaged by it in the past?

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