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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
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    Coria's early check-in was due to the team's mistake. They mistakenly informed him that early check-in was permitted, as is often the case when returning to the service parks at the end of a stage.

    He asked the marshal to verify, who confirmed it was allowed. He then asked a second person who was unwilling (or unable) to provide an answer.

    He checked in 5-10 seconds before the base minute... but in the end, early check-in wasn't allowed.

    This was due to the team's erroneous message, sent unintentionally, not Coria's.

    Hyundai's appeal was rejected, the penalty was upheld... and the €1000 penalty wasn't returned
    Responsible for giving time card to timekeeper in correct time is codriver. Timekeeper is on site only to mark the time, not to provide any informaiton (and this is strictly written in regulations). Early check-in allowance in specific time controls is described in supplementary regulations, in itinerary and also in time card! Of course it is mistake by team sending them message that early check-in is allowed, but that is the problem of current dates, when there is plenty of people in one team and people rely on others. And as codriver had this timecard in his hand, it is not so difficult to look at that timecard and see if early check-in is allowed or not. So pure mistake by codriver.

    I absolutely dont understand this protest from Hyundai. From regulations point it is very clear and no chance for any other decision (despite we had an opportunity to see very strange decisions in WRC in last months/years).

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    https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/o...85691/5285691/

    Well what we have here. Ogier complaining that the "guest drivers" should be driving first in 2018. Funny that he is doing exactly this... Oh wait. He is doing that to win the title(s).

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    Maybe the Loeb factor... In these years also the starting order had changed, maybe the first years when the champoinship leader opens the road.. i remember Ogier wining about the road cleaning, when the rules changed... its all up to the starting order.. maybe something must be changed there.. qualification stage before the rally (like ERC) would be the solution i guess...

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    Or break gravel rallies with tarmac or mixed ones (those are completely missing out of calendar, don't count Monte)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
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    Coria's early check-in was due to the team's mistake.
    This is the problem with many modern co-drivers, they think the job is all about reading pace notes and everything else is somebody else's responsibility. Proper "old school" co-drivers studied the FIA prescriptions, event regulations, road books and bulletins in detail to make sure they understood all of the requirements. It was even more important in those days as every event was different in the way it operated. These days with everything running to the same system, there's no excuse.

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    So my question is, from someone who went to the rally; what do you fans really think of the event? People here say it was bad.. but why? Did you not see the action? Was it not entertaining enough for you? I didn’t notice that one driver who became champion just dominate the event like at other events where you know they’d win. Have to say, new event, brought something and excitement! Sandy dunes, rough stages, new sights. Really enjoyed being in Saudi for the first time. Yes the event could have been put together better but it’ll grow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/o...85691/5285691/

    Well what have we here. Ogier complaining that the "guest drivers" should be driving first in 2018. Funny that he is doing exactly this... Oh wait. He is doing that to win the title(s).
    Good find !.Someone should show him this old quote and see what he says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1 View Post
    So my question is, from someone who went to the rally; what do you fans really think of the event?
    I enjoyed it more than any other event for some years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Good find !.Someone should show him this old quote and see what he says.
    I think he'd stand by it and make the someone look the fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    lol nice try but not comparable at all and you are talking about one of the most legendary rallies not some fake man made stages drama show

    Anyway, won’t argue anymore. Like Estonian saying goes “kellele ema, kellele tütar”
    None of these roads were any more ‘fake man made’ than any other rally road. These were all existing gravel tracks that were developed for the event.

    If you want ‘fake man made’ go to Safari. And there are no complaints about them. Nor should there be!

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