M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 6th November 2025, 17:31

Originally Posted by deephouse

And yet many great and more promising drivers are sitting at home and watching those two struggle against being on the road at all.

That's why we need cheaper cars and more teams. Only elite factory drivers and those with super-rich backers can get a seat in a Rally1.

But no-one should be 'sitting at home'. A Raĺly2 Car is a much cheaper way to show your speed.

**deephouse** · 6th November 2025, 18:54

Agree, I miss those times when there were many seats available in manufacturer cars and then besides them many privateers who actually show some promising times.

**saco0o** · 23rd November 2025, 21:22

no videos of nasser al athyah testing the puma?

**saco0o** · 30th November 2025, 11:17

well, sesks was leading a rally and nasser did finished ahead of both msports in some of the first stages...
does this mean msport has really bad drivers in munster and josh or is there other explanation?

**Managarium** · 30th November 2025, 11:50

I thought also just like you. But, on the penultimate stage in Saudi Arabia, when Martinš's Puma died with engine problem, I don't know what to think anymore.

**deephouse** · 30th November 2025, 14:02

It just shows that if Sesks will be given full season and proper testing, he could be right in the middle, podium(s), or even challenge for win. He is almost on level of Katsuta and Fourmaux if the things are right.

**Sulland** · 30th November 2025, 14:15

Originally Posted by saco0o

well, sesks was leading a rally and nasser did finished ahead of both msports in some of the first stages...
does this mean msport has really bad drivers in munster and josh or is there other explanation?

IMO none of their regular drivers have the needed experience or talent to master a Rally1 car. And you see this once a good driver takes the wheel of a Puma. Loeb and Sesks have made it work, so car is ok.

**trykmann** · 30th November 2025, 14:48

Puma does have performace issues on some surfaces, but regarding the overall pace with proper drivers a top5 finish should be possible in almost all events.

**deephouse** · 30th November 2025, 15:39

Hyundai seems work well also on extreme conditions, while on "normal" it's complete garbage. Kinda like Lada Niva car. Puma needs just right drivers. Munster (and too soon to say McErlean) just aren't. Also sorry for saying that, but nobody out of those two don't show any potential even for future.