Hyundai WRT

**TypeR** · 14th October 2025, 08:10

Again new director, still old car and nothing changes

**rallyfiend** · 14th October 2025, 08:37

Originally Posted by TypeR

Again new director, still old car and nothing changes

But likely now clear new direction on the creation of the 2027 car....

**WRCStan** · Yesterday, 17:34

Clear response to Abiteboul's stupid question about BoP: https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/fia-e...d-rally2-cars/

A stupid question Abiteboul asked whilst also saying 'we wont develop a WRC27, but we will develop a Rally2 from the ground up'.

It's a problem across the Hyundai brand; they don't know wtf they're doing. No strategy, flip-flopping, too many cooks, not enough broth. New model line launch, new model line cancelled. Commit to this, but don't commit to this.

**rallyfiend** · Yesterday, 17:59

Cyril is right.

What’s the point of 27 spec cars if they can be so easily balanced with weight against Rally2?

What’s the point of Toyota making a new car 18 months after their Rally2?

Also, how can Mestalon seriously say that BoP in WEC is working well? The only reason the disaster of that is not more talked about is because the FIA literally implemented a rule that says you can be penalised for talking about it…..

**WRCStan** · Yesterday, 19:16

Originally Posted by rallyfiend

Cyril is right.

What’s the point of 27 spec cars if they can be so easily balanced with weight against Rally2?

Am I misunderstanding? As I can see it, there will be a weight advantage with a WRC27. Toyota will win every event if they turn up as the only WRC2027 runner. The idea of adding Rally2 is so that the championship continues with manufacturers, not promoter-backed entries.

The manufacturers champ should only permit existing Rally2s and no new ones should be homologated after Lancia.

**flat_right** · Yesterday, 19:49

Originally Posted by WRCStan

Am I misunderstanding? As I can see it, there will be a weight advantage with a WRC27. Toyota will win every event if they turn up as the only WRC2027 runner. The idea of adding Rally2 is so that the championship continues with manufacturers, not promoter-backed entries.

The manufacturers champ should only permit existing Rally2s and no new ones should be homologated after Lancia.

WRC27 will likely be more heavier than Rally2. So how is being heavier a weight advantage?

**Fast Eddie WRC** · Yesterday, 22:03

The weight will be adjusted to give both types of car equal performance. The WRC27 will likely need extra weight added as balast as it's a spaceframe chassis.

**WRCStan** · Yesterday, 22:32

Originally Posted by flat_right

WRC27 will likely be more heavier than Rally2. So how is being heavier a weight advantage?

According to David Evans? Or based on what parts? I'm not sure Mestelan is saying this. The minimum weight of the new car has been set the same as Rally2 for the short term but in his words it has a slight advantage due to aerodynamics etc. The ballast is already priced in to the minimum weight. He says: "To do that, in what we call short term, it’s to have in the same category Rally2 and the new WRC27 regulation." So when there's enough new cars and manufacturers, they will rid Rally2, ramp up the power and lose the weight for RC1 and keep it the same for RC2.

This whole conversation and two DF articles are shaped around Cyril mouthing nothings at scraping through only 2027 without looking beyond, even if he does say running a Rally2 could be a stepping stone to remaining in WRC long term - with an already out of production car. Hyundai want to add 'technology to the car' because they're not interested in Rally2 powered WRC2027, but they're not willing to build the car that the FIA will allow them to 'add technology to' later on down the line, so they might run a Rally2 powered Rally2 car.

WTAF? I'd have respect for them all if he just cuts the crap and calls it what it is. They've given us some good times, just annoying me now.

**flat_right** · Today, 06:23

Yes, according to Evans. There was clearly written what I highlighted below, but now reading your comments, I think you are right.

Evans: So, balance of power and equalization of technology are definitely not to be mentioned… but there’s still the matter of the need for a fair fight between a production-based car and the spaceframe chassis. Yes, they’ll have the same power output, suspension and transmission – but WRC27 is very likely to weigh more.

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/fia-e...d-rally2-cars/

**jonkka** · Today, 06:41

Amazing that Abiteboul's statement of "we may not build 2027 spec car" hasn't created more stir than this? I only read about it now, three days afterwards and to find more I have to google myself into bleeding Dirtfish (site I avoid like plague otherwise).