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**Eli** · 14th September 2025, 15:26

Originally Posted by bandit12

I’m afraid that Ogier will mentally break poor Evans...

I hope not, if any Toyota wins (if as if they won’t lol) this year I’d like it to be Evans.

**Eli** · 14th September 2025, 15:28

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Not sure if this was posted here.

**WRCStan** · 14th September 2025, 16:04

Originally Posted by bandit12

I’m afraid that Ogier will mentally break poor Evans...

I don't think Evans needs anybody's help.

**KKS** · 14th September 2025, 16:16

Originally Posted by trykmann

I have the same impression. Seems like a regular guy, who goes to work and does the things he is paid for, but the fire is not there anymore.

2 WDC was a fluke when Ogier was on a holiday

**CeskyOndra** · 14th September 2025, 16:22

Originally Posted by KKS

2 WDC was a fluke when Ogier was on a holiday

Ogier wouldn't stand a chance against Rovanpera in 2022.

**focus206** · 14th September 2025, 16:28

Originally Posted by KKS

2 WDC was a fluke when Ogier was on a holiday

Ogier in the Pirelli+hybrid era was a shadow of the Ogier we know. He wasn't able to beat Thierry last year, good luck against Kalle.

**denkimi** · 14th September 2025, 16:31

Originally Posted by CeskyOndra

Ogier wouldn't stand a chance against Rovanpera in 2022.

the only one who has ever beaten ogier in equal machinery was loeb, when ogier was still learning.

I'm not convinced rovanpera would have been champion is ogier did a full season. And i'm equally unconviced tanak would have been champion if ogier hadn't gone to citroen.
he just is the goat of the sport.

**EstWRC** · 14th September 2025, 16:31

Originally Posted by CeskyOndra

Ogier wouldn't stand a chance against Rovanpera in 2022.

Exactly. I hate when people say this or the same for Tanaks 2019 title.

Like I have mentioned previously, Tanaks 2019 title was even stronger than Kalles in statistically

**CeskyOndra** · 14th September 2025, 16:36

If Ogier was unbeatable in hybrid era, he wouldn't have crashed in 3 rallies a row chasing title last year.

**focus206** · 14th September 2025, 16:49

Originally Posted by denkimi

the only one who has ever beaten ogier in equal machinery was loeb, when ogier was still learning.

I'm not convinced rovanpera would have been champion is ogier did a full season. And i'm equally unconviced tanak would have been champion if ogier hadn't gone to citroen.
he just is the goat of the sport.

Ogier lost the title in 2019 driving a car that still made Meeke win rallies, Breen, Mikkelsen and Ostberg get podiums. I would have expected the goat to still do better than what he did.
While nobody can say for certain, I'd be willing to bet Kalle won the titles with hands in pockets in 2022 and 2023, knowing Ogier wasn't a threat. He could have been faster if it was needed.
Yeah, Ogier is amazing, but beating Kalle in those years? I can't imagine it. In 2024 he didn't seem fast enough nor consistent enough to do that, he was unable to recover few points from Neuville in an inferior car, too many crashes.