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    as we were saying a couple of months ago, this new 'business model' (build cars able to compete in wrc, erc, national championships) will be as good or even better as the current rally2 market. sure, anyone can build a car now, but the teams already in business know how to do it. (msport, skoda motorsport, toyota, the stellantis racing division etc)

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    https://rallyjournal.com/hyundai-iss...er-wrc-future/

    Hyundai again threatening to leave. This time it is the powertrain that does not suit them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/mikke...n-wrc-in-2027/ Mikkelsen is trying to convince Skoda to join WRC in 2027.

    also Skoda Motorsport tease with that on FB story. https://ibb.co/vCtszZ9q
    The link between the Enyaq and WRC2027 is a tad optimistic for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flat_right View Post
    https://rallyjournal.com/hyundai-iss...er-wrc-future/

    Hyundai again threatening to leave. This time it is the powertrain that does not suit them.
    Why asking so little favours.. better ask straight away that they would like to keep using same rally1 cars while others are allowed to race rally2 or even rally3 cars..

    Tired of their ,,I will cry without candy'' stories..

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    hmmmm wait. if the car must cost 340k $ (? is that the number?), can they build and sell for a profit?? i just thought that. imagine Skoda Motorsport builds cars... can they make it for a decent price in order to be able to sell it (and profit) for 340$? (i forgot the actual price, sorry)

    or, for example, can Toyota build their new cars that would cost 500k bucks and simply not sell? use it just for the factory team? (while saying "nah, but for US it costed 340k $, we are not selling it because we would not make a profit and we cannot sell it for 500k $ according to this new deal)

    i wish we could have a good press conference with all out doubts answered

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    What a mess. I just dont see a way ahead in 2027 with all the different Manufacturer Teams and any possible tuners all wanting different things.

    And its already so late now that whatever is decided most wont be able to get their car ready in time.

    I can see it all being put back another year.
    #M-SPORTER

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    I can see it all being put back another year.
    What for? There's very low R&D isn't there? Engine and running gear exists, safety cell drawings will exist soon, bodywork frame exists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saco0o View Post
    can Toyota build their new cars that would cost 500k bucks and simply not sell? use it just for the factory team? (while saying "nah, but for US it costed 340k $, we are not selling it because we would not make a profit and we cannot sell it for 500k $ according to this new deal)
    In the past they have added to the rules that the car must be available to the public for purchase. It's a possible option and a likely option if they are phasing Rally2 out.

    Can they sell it for profit? Easier to wait and see how many start Monte 27. If it can't be done, it won't be done. Maybe the cost cap is just a statement of intent used for shaping discussion of the future only.

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    brand "to sell" will not do wrc, they ll build car that profit whitin the budget cap. manus will do car for wrc that uses all the money they have, and maybe keep a "rally2" version to sell among the others.

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