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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post
    The cars are:
    Lancia Ypsilon HF Racing
    Peugeot 208 Racing
    Renault Clio FR6
    Opel Corsa FR6
    Options are:
    "Case 1: Cars homologated by FIA in Group A/N with two-wheel drive and for which no VRa5 is homologated at the time of the Rally5-Kit Variant request to ASN.
    Case 2: Cars not homologated with the FIA but..."

    At least for the Clio is clear, it cannot have a Rally5-kit because it is homologated and has a VRa5. I'm guessing the others having VRa4 are also problematic because any VRa4 also allows a VRa5.

    I haven't looked too closely or cannot remember, what is the difference between these cars that they're not meeting... the already FIA homologated Rally5....? Whatever it is has to be down to reducing costs, surely?

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    Do FIA have any plans for the most successful rally carclass ever?

    Will it keep on as now, without any tech changes?
    Will it be changed to match as a level 2 class to the new Rally1 class?

    What would you as competitor or a fan of rally, following the competitions on and offline?

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    Doubt there will be any plans on existing Rally2 made public until they work out what WRC2027 is. But that'll replace it as far as I can see. There's no sense in having two performance cars - excepting the higher-tunings that WRC-showbiz (current manufacturers) will have.

    Eventually all special-stage rally cars will be spaceframe rallysport specials; and the FIA pyramid could be:
    *Performance 4wd
    *Entry 4wd
    *Performance 2wd
    *Entry 2wd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    Do FIA have any plans for the most successful rally carclass ever?

    Will it keep on as now, without any tech changes?
    Will it be changed to match as a level 2 class to the new Rally1 class?

    What would you as competitor or a fan of rally, following the competitions on and offline?
    The Manufacturer Teams and Tuner Teams will be in Rally1 with the new '27 Cars (elite drivers and wealthy guys).

    The privateers in WRC2 with their old Rally2 Cars, but maybe allowed some power boost to keep them competitive.

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    Citroën C3 Rally2 has achieved 94 victories since the beginning of 2025. Across 328 rallies contested as of July 30, 2025, totalling over 650 starts, the Citroën C3 Rally2 has an exceptional success rate of 28.7%, according to the offcial press release:
    https://www.media.stellantis.com/em-...roen-c3-rally2
    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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    DirtFish sources have indicated Lancia will homologate an Ypsilon Rally2 from January 1, 2026:
    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/lanci...ected-in-2026/
    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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    So what is the real connection of the new Lancia to the C3 Rally2 ? Does the Ypsilon road car share the same chassis, as it's a lot newer ?

    There's also some talk that it's only a marketing ploy for Italy to sell there instead of Citroen's. This makes it a different thing altogether to a proper Lancia rally team comeback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    So what is the real connection of the new Lancia to the C3 Rally2 ? Does the Ypsilon road car share the same chassis, as it's a lot newer ?

    There's also some talk that it's only a marketing ploy for Italy to sell there instead of Citroen's. This makes it a different thing altogether to a proper Lancia rally team comeback.
    Ypsilon and new C3 are related platform-wise, but not the exact same. Ypsilon is CMP (like 208, Corsa, Mokka), C3 is SCP (like Frontera, Grande Panda).
    Also the homologation end of the C3 R5 is nearing, and basically it has reached its potential. New C3 is built like a truck, so not really good basis for rallying. Also, Citroen had nothing in rallying anymore apart from the C3 R5, so I believe that this is also a "profile-cleaning" of some sort.

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    New video of the Lancia:

    https://youtu.be/WCeADmGtqmA?si=VXDpKSyqNer4oii_

    With Leo Rossel... anyone translate?

    https://youtu.be/q22GWjskvMk?si=DH4RrJrB1CtRVqOs
    Last edited by Fast Eddie WRC; 3rd September 2025 at 21:52.

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