Page 36 of 37 FirstFirst ... 2634353637 LastLast
Results 351 to 360 of 361
  1. #351
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    2,117
    Like
    586
    Liked 964 Times in 460 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by doubled1978 View Post
    I said earlier in the thread, I think the closest I can think of was Makinen in Finland ‘94. He had done some rallies in the top class with Mazda and Nissan with little to shout about, but Ford gave him a car for Finland after Delecour’s accident and he basically did what Oliver has just done.
    Other examples:
    Safari specialist Ian Duncan winning Safari 1994 in works Toyota.
    Mats Jonsson winning Sweden 1992 and 1993 with Toyota Sweden (only Sweden entered in '92, Sweden and RAC in '93)
    Gianfranco Cunico winning Sanremo 1993 with Ford Italy (was only doing Italian championship)
    Tony Fassina winning Sanremo 1979 with a semi works Lancia Stratos (was also doing only Italian championship)

  2. Likes: dimviii (Yesterday),doubled1978 (Yesterday),GF (Today)
  3. #352
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Posts
    833
    Like
    179
    Liked 755 Times in 360 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by focus206 View Post
    Other examples:
    Safari specialist Ian Duncan winning Safari 1994 in works Toyota.
    Mats Jonsson winning Sweden 1992 and 1993 with Toyota Sweden (only Sweden entered in '92, Sweden and RAC in '93)
    Gianfranco Cunico winning Sanremo 1993 with Ford Italy (was only doing Italian championship)
    Tony Fassina winning Sanremo 1979 with a semi works Lancia Stratos (was also doing only Italian championship)
    I discounted the African rallies back then because they were so tough, not really the same comparison. Didn’t Alain Orielle win one in a Group N Renault 5?
    Jonsson and Cunico were definitely surprises, although I wouldn’t count them in the same way I would Oliver and Makinen. They were both experienced guys and the rallies they won didn’t have the best entries. Jonsson can say he went out and beat Kankkunen in the works car though. Cunico was only really against the works Fords, and they both blew up. Delecour was miles ahead when his engine went.
    Fassina was a bit before me.
    Oliver and Makinen went out and beat the best on pace in one-off drives, that to me makes them very special.

  4. Likes: Rallyper (Yesterday)
  5. #353
    Senior Member SubaruNorway's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Biri, Norway
    Posts
    4,863
    Like
    128
    Liked 1,941 Times in 764 Posts
    Almost lost for words after this week, decided last minute to go here and then we end up with a win for Oliver!

    Here's my video, had a great time meeting friends on almost every stage as always!
    https://youtu.be/t4isDEoDKmk?si=K3n4KQw1NK8Qg_Yx
    "Die with memories, not with dreams" Scott McIsaac
    http://www.motorsportfilmer.net

  6. Likes: Eli (Today),EstWRC (Today),Lead (Today),meh (Today),satnav (Today)
  7. #354
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2019
    Posts
    2,399
    Like
    432
    Liked 1,771 Times in 822 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    Almost lost for words after this week, decided last minute to go here and then we end up with a win for Oliver!
    Basically, I came here to congratulate you, SubaruNorway, for your last-minute decision to witness Rally Estonia to support Solberg, and you were able to be part of such a historic moment!

    The Shakedown showed a promise that something big may happen. The first proper stage SS2, showed that it is going to happen.

    Why was I quite sure:
    * he showed the speed that others were not able to show with proper push
    * In Rally2, he has learned and practiced to keep the lead and drive under pressure
    * The stakes were too high, it would be stupid to take too many risks and do something silly, but it also gave him huge pressure, and he delivered!

    For sure, in a rally, everything can happen - a proper masterclass from Oliver.

    The main surprise for me was that Solberg was able to fly with the Toyota, while Rovanperä and Evans were not.

    Other comments Rally1:
    * Tänak - can take 2nd places after the best Toyota 3 times in 4 rallies is quite some consistency, taking into account that he complains about the car a lot
    * Neuville - maybe I'm stuck in old dogmas, but his speed was a bit surprise. Or maybe we should use Tänak's perspective and say that we should be surprised how bad were Tänak, Rovanperä etc compared to others. He seemed to enjoy the stages.
    * Rovanperä - if there could be no Solberg in the rally, quite many could say that Toyota is bad, because even Rovanperä can not match Hyundais. Made a proper push on PowerStage, but otherwise, he is still lost. 2 years ago, he seemed unbeatable, and now he struggles to get the car working on gravel. Most likely, he is waiting for tarmac rallies already. I guess his ego or motivation got quite some kick from Solberg - "you see, the car is working well".
    * Evans - he lost his speed quite some rallies ago, but got away with a lack of speed if we watch the scored points. This time, he did not gain positions because of the problems or retirements of others. To have a chance for the title, he needs to start driving again. One could even argue that he could be behind Taka and Pajari if they did not have problems. Most likely also struggles with the car setup like Rovanperä.
    * Fourmaux - maybe I expected a bit more from speedwise, but in the big picture, I think he did his job well.
    * Pajari - his future perspectives in the team got some new aspects for sure. I just wonder, if he keeps learning at a safe pace, can you learn the fast pace that way, or do you just get stuck in the safe mode?
    * Takamoto - pity that he had problems, but even without that, I expected a bit more than 6th fastest stage times on average
    * Sesks - I think he hoped a bit more, first comments at the stage end were in a bit different tone compared to later when reality hits in. Hard to say anything as I/we don't have any idea how competitive the car is.
    * Munster and McErlean - they had their own tasks to do, although most of the others struggled to find the setup M-Sport is far behind everyone.


    Rally2 - Virves dominated the field, and the job was well done. Yes, we did not have the usual Rally2 big names like Solberg, Rossel, Greensmith and Dapra - but who to blame?

    Really interesting to see Rally Finland now - everyone in Rally2 got extra motivation to fight with Solberg now, because since Rally Estonia, they don't beat just a leader of Rally2, but The Guy Who Dominated In Rally1. We can also expect that Fins (Korhonen, Heikkilä, Lindholm, Latvala) are probably stronger in Finland than they were in Estonia. It will be interesting.

    Rally as an event seems to be a master class again, hats off to Aava and the team. Yes, there are also things to be improved, and yes, this is what the team does for every next rally. Keep going!

    PS, DirtFish - if you're going to make articles again based on my comments in the forum here, you should point to the source.
    Last edited by meh; Today at 09:22.

  8. Likes: Eli (Today),satnav (Today),SubaruNorway (Today),trykmann (Today)
  9. #355
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Posts
    176
    Like
    9
    Liked 137 Times in 52 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by meh View Post
    * Neuville - maybe I'm stuck in old dogmas, but his speed was a bit surprise. Or maybe we should use Tänak's perspective and say that we should be surprised how bad were Tänak, Rovanperä etc compared to others. He seemed to enjoy the stages.
    We maybe have to reconsider Neuville's pace on high speed events. Now when he had a more competitive car, then the speed was speed there, previously the Hyundai was just so bad and it didn't give him the confidence.

  10. #356
    Senior Member EstWRC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Location
    Estonia
    Posts
    15,124
    Like
    6,977
    Liked 12,608 Times in 5,479 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by trykmann View Post
    We maybe have to reconsider Neuville's pace on high speed events. Now when he had a more competitive car, then the speed was speed there, previously the Hyundai was just so bad and it didn't give him the confidence.
    He has said himself that the testing now in Finland at their base has given him more understanding how to drive on those fast rallies.

    Seems he really found something on Saturday with the car.

  11. #357
    Senior Member EstWRC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Location
    Estonia
    Posts
    15,124
    Like
    6,977
    Liked 12,608 Times in 5,479 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    Almost lost for words after this week, decided last minute to go here and then we end up with a win for Oliver!

    Here's my video, had a great time meeting friends on almost every stage as always!
    https://youtu.be/t4isDEoDKmk?si=K3n4KQw1NK8Qg_Yx
    Thank you for coming and awesome video like always!

    Congrats on the Oliver win!

  12. #358
    Senior Member CeskyOndra's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2023
    Posts
    1,367
    Like
    0
    Liked 356 Times in 212 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    He has said himself that the testing now in Finland at their base has given him more understanding how to drive on those fast rallies.

    Seems he really found something on Saturday with the car.
    Yeah, but when it comes to being wet, Hyundai is miles behind Toyota.. We have to hope for dry Finland..

  13. #359
    Senior Member satnav's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    494
    Like
    1,024
    Liked 257 Times in 139 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by CeskyOndra View Post
    Yeah, but when it comes to being wet, Hyundai is miles behind Toyota.. We have to hope for dry Finland..
    Thats not the forecast atm, looking like there's going to be rain

  14. #360
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2024
    Posts
    718
    Like
    174
    Liked 175 Times in 120 Posts
    best wrc event since sesks debut. perfect. i was not even following the wrc that close anymore, more interested in erc and paddon in australia but eh, this one was awesome in every way. im kinda late trying to keep up with all the content cuz i was offline during the weekend. incredible.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •