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25th May 2025, 17:08 #11
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What junk.
" Lady - I'm in an awful dilemma.
Moe - Yeah, I never cared much for these foreign cars either."
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25th May 2025, 17:39 #12
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If something wild had happened in the last third of the race, it could have been an interesting race. But it didn't. It was just Monaco, with no overtaking.
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25th May 2025, 19:06 #13
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25th May 2025, 19:16 #14
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I thought some clever strategy may have shuffled things up at some point. Unfortunately, it became a race of two halves; the sharp end with four cars chasing each other, and the slow train led around the track by the Williams cars. Of course, there was the lone wolf Hamilton, a good distance away from both of these groups. Verstappen tried a few tricks to get the McLarens to tangle up with the Ferrari of LeClerc, but they were wise to his intentions.
Williams is the best strategic team on the grid at the mo. I can imagine Toto sitting at his station, not impressed with James Vowles and his drivers. Ferrari can be proud of their showing this weekend. But LeClercc would be very disappointed not to win it back to back.Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
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25th May 2025, 19:16 #15
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I do love this track, but that was such a pile of junk.
Oh well." Lady - I'm in an awful dilemma.
Moe - Yeah, I never cared much for these foreign cars either."
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25th May 2025, 19:23 #16
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Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
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Yesterday, 00:47 #17
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After each race, I normally listen to the team radio of the leading top five drivers to gauge what their race was like from inside the cockpit. Of the five at Monaco, the radio communication between Hamilton and Adami struck me the most. The happy dialogue of Imola was replaced by a very dejected and cold exchange after the Monaco GP. It was more telling when Hamilton asked Adami if he was upset with him and got radio silence back.
This caused me to go back and watch the race again purely to see Hamilton's race relative to the four ahead. And one of the things that occurred to me was how obvious it was that he was not pushing to attempt to close in on Verstapen ahead. I think Adami felt Hamilton should have been, at least at the 30 minutes gap to Verstappen, to put some pressure on Verstappen's second stop. The gap created by Hamilton gave Verstappen the freedom to experiment with trying to get the McLaren car to tangle with LeClerc in some form of accident that would bring out the safety car. Which would have made it possible for him to win the race. After clearing the two cars between himself and Verstappen, l expected to see the usual Hamilton "Never Give Up" pace, but it never happened. Rather, he appeared to be casually driving round contented to finish fifth. Which was very uncharacteristic of Hamilton.
So what's going on there? I asked myself. Firstly, it seemed like a quiet protest to the Ferrari pitwall for the mis-information that caused him to start the race in 7th rather than 4th, where he qualified. Apart from China, this was one of Hamilton's strongest qualifying performances since joining the Scuderia team.
Hence, we have a situation where each side has a good reason to be upset with the other. That said, Hamilton just did enough to salvage 5th, but did not do a stellar job of trying to maximise his chances. Which was disappointing to watch. In the scheme of things, we are talking about a few more points, not a race win. Hence, l can see why that would not be of particular importance to Hamilton, who is only interested in winning or a chance for a shot at the win. While it was good to see LeClerc amid the McLarens, the race showed that the Ferrari is still not good enough to win a race, even in the short street circuit of Monaco.
One very noticeable occurrence was how close Hamilton was to LeClerc in qualifying at this race. 0.105s, which was significantly closer than his usual 0.350s gaps from LeClerc in previous races. He is making good progress, but it is obvious that he still has to make some compromises to how he would normally drive, in order to get the most that he can from the SF25.
Hamilton wants more rear-end stability, so he can drive the SF25 more naturally. I think a stable rear end would also benefit LeClerc. Let's see what Ferrari brings to Spain. An average or poor showing in Spain may trigger the switch of development from the SF25 to the SF26.Last edited by Nitrodaze; Yesterday at 06:27.
Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
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Yesterday, 15:21 #18
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Well, so much for two stops spicing things up. It did have some impact, but the end result was seeing the cars going slower and slower, with a couple teams taking advantage of the situation to do what they could on a track you can rarely make a pass on.
It might have been interesting up front if not for the McLarens having the advantage of two cars in the fight. Leclerc had some solid pace, and Max wasn't much slower. But Lando had a great race, as did Oscar, and they could cover off any tactics by the others. It was clear that Lando wasn't liking the pressure when Max was backing him into Charles, but he managed to get through it and take a win. It does leave me wondering if or when McLaren might have to designate a #1 driver. With Oscar and Lando taking points off of each other, they leave the chance that Max can sneak back into the hunt for the WDC. And though I personally hate when teams play that #1 game, unless the gap opens up they might have to do it unless they want to risk the WDC. I hope it doesn't happen, as I think Oscar is being given a chance to gain more confidence and assert himself within the team. Regardless of who comes out on top, I think the challenge of a strong driver in both seats is good for the drivers as well.... there is always some pressure to deal with.
Well done by both Racing Bulls and Williams to use the new rule to get both cars in the points. It was almost assumed it would happen with at least one team, and didn't make for great racing, but points are points. Good race by Ocon as well.
I don't think I've heard Alonso that angry on the radio. And it was a bad call, and obviously NOT what he was looking for. As it turns out it probably wouldn't have mattered anyway since his engine let go.
The borefest remains. I've wished for years they would just take Monaco off the calendar. The history isn't worth the poor racing on track. It might be interesting if it was simply a short time trial and the cars were encouraged to "win it or bin it" with another format, but it would likely also trash a lot of equipment along the way.
Yeah, i use it a lot. Weird google maps is not standard for WRC and ERC, most other events has it now. Would be awesome if google maps was integrated with rally-maps. Had some time at work to...
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