Page 29 of 29 FirstFirst ... 19272829
Results 281 to 288 of 288
  1. #281
    Senior Member Fast Eddie WRC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    England
    Posts
    20,260
    Like
    3,576
    Liked 9,812 Times in 5,263 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by saco0o View Post
    as long as R5s are still on 'the same levels' for a few years, then its fine. because its not everybody who have the money to build/buy these new spaceframe + aerokit cars, right? if they dont extend the lifetime of the R5s, we may cause a little crisis where less people will buy them because "they will not be able to race them by 2027" (outside national championships, probably)
    Is this still the plan, for current Rally2 Cars to compete with the new 2027-spec cars ? I cant remember any more after this has changed so many times !

  2. #282
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2018
    Location
    Milkyway -> Earth -> Europe -> Slovenia
    Posts
    1,159
    Like
    94
    Liked 455 Times in 263 Posts
    I think this will be the only option. But probably will not be any official manufacturer present, because let's face it. As soon there would be in any kind of form of Toyota, nobody would stand a chance. We don't have to worry about entries, because there would probably be too much of them. As other manufacturers who currently (still) produce those kind of cars are not interested for many years now, so I think this will not change.

  3. #283
    Senior Member Fast Eddie WRC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    England
    Posts
    20,260
    Like
    3,576
    Liked 9,812 Times in 5,263 Posts

  4. #284
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    89
    Like
    15
    Liked 59 Times in 30 Posts
    I see the fears coming from M-Sport, but if they need those 2 extra months, just spend them on the front and the rear, since they have already the detailed rules. From August on, just work on the rest.

    As for Hyundai, enough with their crying and rule changes. This is just the last excuse to justify something they already decided long time ago, but they didn't share yet.

    I'd love seeing tuners like Prodrive partnering with a manufacturer rather than Hyundai's daily soap opera.

    Also, it might open the door back for Lancia and Skoda as well. Since the costs are dramatically going down, if they manage to get on board some good heavy sponsors (Abu Dhabi, TotalEnergies or something like that) they could fund very efficiently their factory campaign. I'm just speculating, but Lancia's CEO told that with current Rally1 it was too expensive and didn't guarantee return of investment. Now, who knows?

  5. Likes: skarderud (30th April 2025)
  6. #285
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2022
    Posts
    581
    Like
    83
    Liked 413 Times in 227 Posts
    The more I hear about 2027 and the fallout from the proposed new regs the more I think about what happened to the DTM race series. Once capable of drawing crowds as big or bigger than for F1 it fell from its pedestal thru bad promotion, falling out amongst the manufacturers and a shifting world outside of motorsport. You could quite easily say that the WRC is in the departure gate ready to follow. Whilst the following article doesnt necessarily fit completely it does raise some interesting points one of which is about being unique which certainly in recent years the top formula WRC 1 etc has been, with Rally 2 based kit that will be lost:

    https://gprejects.com/centrale/opini...ean-motorsport

  7. Likes: AndyRAC (30th April 2025),satnav (30th April 2025)
  8. #286
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2024
    Posts
    630
    Like
    149
    Liked 153 Times in 105 Posts
    fia will redesign the rally pyramid for 2027
    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/fia-w...amid-for-2027/

    does anyone know how cheaper would be to run something like this as an 'entry level' instead of rally4 and rally3?
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hwLMicOd-xw
    this class is exploding in autocross/rallycross, with looooots of brands producing it.
    just get them to produce 2 seaters, like this one
    no? entry level

  9. #287
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2021
    Posts
    1,310
    Like
    609
    Liked 678 Times in 373 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by saco0o View Post
    does anyone know how cheaper would be to run something like this as an 'entry level' instead of rally4 and rally3?
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hwLMicOd-xw
    this class is exploding in autocross/rallycross, with looooots of brands producing it.
    just get them to produce 2 seaters, like this one
    no? entry level
    Look up SSV - side-by-side vehicle, they're not new in bajas or raids or in the Middle East and Africa. One came 6th in Rally Saudi over the weekend. More simple 2-seater carts/buggys like you linked are unsuitable for being European street-legal which you need for any significant rallying or influential support.

    It should be cheaper, don't know if you saw this video but it could become more of a thing. In 10 years time why would anybody be building a brand new 15 year old car for the privateer? It doesn't make sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by WRCStan View Post
    Rich Millener on side-by-sides: 'I personally think a modified version of this could be the answer to the problems in rally of entry level vehicles'

    https://youtu.be/1xsKjcptLjc?t=785

  10. #288
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2020
    Posts
    329
    Like
    40
    Liked 242 Times in 129 Posts
    To the topic if private tuners can carry the championship - of course they can. Dakar/W2RC basically works like that. Dacia is Prodrive, which run their own team even before Renault entered, Toyota is Overdrive, Mini is X-Raid, and many of other cars without manufacturers' backing is there too. etc. etc. There always were and always will be bunch of privateers, full factory teams were really an exeption.

    And as it was already mentioned in this thread, there were many attempts to build a rally car from private tuners, that ended on the need of manufacturer backed homologation.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •