M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams

**deephouse** · 9th December 2024, 14:24

It's clear that Adrien is/was their business model, as many were before. They sell him and will continue to develop drivers to the main teams. At the end, he was too good, and Malcolm politely say to him, goodbye.

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 10th December 2024, 09:09

It sounds to me like if Ford had provided more money for developing the Puma then M-Sport might've had the chance to keep Fourmaux.

Also Malcolm Wilson will pay a top driver (Ogier, Tanak) and ones getting close (Breen), so he may have done the same with Fourmaux.

**deephouse** · 10th December 2024, 13:25

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

It sounds to me like if Ford had provided more money for developing the Puma then M-Sport might've had the chance to keep Fourmaux.

Also Malcolm Wilson will pay a top driver (Ogier, Tanak) and ones getting close (Breen), so he may have done the same with Fourmaux.

Yeah but I think that Wilson is willing to pay only for top tier drivers, like Ogier or Tanak, those who can actualy win the title or at least fight for it. Adrien isn't on that level yet. Be instantly raise his value but still not high enough that he could match that level. He got offer from other teams and that's it. Job done. It's a business model. No matter how the cards are turned or what they say. It was objective from the start and they done it. Next one please.

**Jarek Z** · 10th December 2024, 17:09

Is it anything interesting?
Ford Escort and RS200 to return in 2025. More details on 12 December.

https://www.evo.co.uk/ford/ford-esco...reborn-classic

**Danny0405** · 11th December 2024, 19:35

According to Belgian guys (Olivier de Wilde, Paul Fraikin, quite efficient in silly season rumors in last 12 months, no Gryazin to M-Sport as he would sign with Toksport.

And it could be Josh McErlean the additional guy in M-Sport line-up… would not be a huge surprise considering how much Irish Federation is spending in rallying.

**AndersX** · 11th December 2024, 21:35

This rounds all down to Munster, Sesks, Rusell and some surprises we are missing on. McErlean would be cool, though. His driving in ERC had very good signs of natural speed.

Interesting, what is the "pay-per-drive" cost in M-Sport, e.g., how much costs Munsters season for his supporters? In comparisson, they say that a season in F3, good team, is 2-3mil Eur. Could be that 1x WRC event for potential youngster would cost in the range of 150K?

**PLuto** · 12th December 2024, 10:53

Originally Posted by AndersX

Could be that 1x WRC event for potential youngster would cost in the range of 150K?

Are you joking?

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 12th December 2024, 10:54

Originally Posted by AndersX

This rounds all down to Munster, Sesks, Rusell and some surprises we are missing on. McErlean would be cool, though. His driving in ERC had very good signs of natural speed.

Interesting, what is the "pay-per-drive" cost in M-Sport, e.g., how much costs Munsters season for his supporters? In comparisson, they say that a season in F3, good team, is 2-3mil Eur. Could be that 1x WRC event for potential youngster would cost in the range of 150K?

John Coyne could be the 'Serderidis' for McErlean. Although I think he would rather spread his money across all the Irish Rally Academy drivers.

**saco0o** · 12th December 2024, 11:46

Originally Posted by Jarek Z

Is it anything interesting?
Ford Escort and RS200 to return in 2025. More details on 12 December.

https://www.evo.co.uk/ford/ford-esco...reborn-classic

thats interesting! not ford "doing it" tho. and tbh i have this thing where I HATE modern cars and suvs, but i support road cars going hybrid, electric. just build evs on those cool old school cars designs! imagine walking around your city, seeing these rad designs on the streets? that should be A LAW haha want to build cars? they cant be this ugly suv comon design, they gotta be like old race cars

**jcevc** · 12th December 2024, 12:39

Originally Posted by AndersX

This rounds all down to Munster, Sesks, Rusell and some surprises we are missing on. McErlean would be cool, though. His driving in ERC had very good signs of natural speed.

Interesting, what is the "pay-per-drive" cost in M-Sport, e.g., how much costs Munsters season for his supporters? In comparisson, they say that a season in F3, good team, is 2-3mil Eur. Could be that 1x WRC event for potential youngster would cost in the range of 150K?

AFAIK is the price for WRC rally with rally1 car 300k or more (for sure depends tarmac/gravel etc) - and MSport is cheaper than TGR - unofficial haha.