WRC mainclass from 2027

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It sounds ok in theory this 'balance of performance', but in practice its not so simple. A car's performance, especially a rally car, is far more nuanced and needs good handling, braking and balance. Getting all these equal with different fuels and powertrains is very tricky.

[becher]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/wrc-2...Yf0vhFxcQ_zzGw

About the 2027 cars.

[saco0o]

wait...im lost
its a R5 built on spaceframe (cheaper / can allow modern crossover models) with spec rally2 (cheaper) parts car that can compete against current R5s (because theres MILLIONS of those out there already) but they can also accomodate open engines under BoP?
thats a 100% for me tbf. cuz even if NOBODY show up with a new gen car in Monte '27, we would still have 100 R5s entering cuz "they can win the biggest rally ever", right? thats GOLD to me haha
my only doubt is if they can get brands to homologate vehicules. i understand that would make it easier for teams to build them, right?
but im not sure i understood this right haha


ps: did we talked about Sordo doing donuts on this weird naked car?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEoIaDO4mwQ

[deephouse]

Maybe they intend to change also rally2 regulations, but they shold do that already 5 years ago if they want to implement that into 2027. So I also don't understand what they want to achieve with that. Surely Skoda, M-Sport, Citroen, Hyundai and also Toyota will not build new cars straight away. Some of those is pretty new and would be stupid to abandon proven business model so soon.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/wrc-2...Yf0vhFxcQ_zzGw

About the 2027 cars.

So now it's Rally2-spec cars to be the top level from 2027 ! All existing road-car based Rally2 cars vs. any new spaceframe Rally2 cars.

That will take some discussion to get everyone agreed... especially the drivers.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

[deephouse]

What if they reject this rules... What will they do then? Will they get back to sheet of paper and again need a year or two before they will having again some ideas? They need back up plan, some more ideas to propose them all and then vote what will be best. Having just one for change like that isn't the best.

[becher]

It kind of seems like they themselves don't really know were they are going with these regulations.

The talk about Rally2 parts in all area is strange, as the current cars already use pretty much Rally2 spec parts in many areas.
The engine for sure is a good thing and lowers the entry hurdle for manufacturers significally.

I have a feeling that the future Rally2 cars will be pretty much the same but with less aero, more steel body panels (or rather less carbon fiber parts) and a smaller restrictor.
Which is a bit of a risk for Rally2, just imagine Toyota selling a toned down Rally1 car to customers. Other commercial customer racing departments would likely be unable to compete while staying profitable.

The proposed cost is not achievable I think but could/should be enforced as a sales price for privateer interests.

How the "cheaper cars" and a few less people in the servicepark are going to attract more manufacturers is beyond me but it could at least bring back some privateer action or hopefully manufacturers willing to run a b-team.


Also, why double wishbone all of a sudden? Sure it's possible with the proposed regulations and the reduced suspension travel, but why?

[1988senna]

How is rule define the car size limited? allow production car or steel pipe car or both,for now Ford don't have the rally2 production cars

[Fast Eddie WRC]

How is rule define the car size limited? allow production car or steel pipe car or both,for now Ford don't have the rally2 production cars

The full details are far off yet, these are just ideas / proposals.

Re M-Sport Ford, they will only be there in 2027 with a spaceframe car (Puma).