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6th October 2024, 11:42 #1131
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Wilson has a management contract with him as well I guess. Taking a part of their salary when they move to another team is part of his business model I believe.
Regarding pay at M Sport vs Hyundai in Neuville's case I seem to remember an interview where he (or Gilsoul) said they didn't really earn anything in 2013 and moved back in with their parents.
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6th October 2024, 12:39 #1132
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oh, he won races in the porsche series?? man i missed that news, just saw he posted a vlog on that. so cool, going to watch it later. that was a good news! how did i missed that
https://youtu.be/dnoeH57h480?feature=shared
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7th October 2024, 05:40 #1133
I dont really believe in the Monster/Redbull clash in M-sport, i mean Serderidis and Sesks have been driving an puma withouth a single Redbull logo on their livery, why Solberg would be different?
Surely they can play it somehow different if there even is any discussion in getting Solberg into a puma.
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7th October 2024, 09:38 #1134
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It changes the game only if MSport has the deal with RB as a team; but if RB logos and co-financing appear on Pumas only via Driver contracts, then there should not be an issue to run 3 or even 4 pumas on different liveries. I think Solbergs issue is different to RB/Monster - could be even Mikkelsen level matter, where Solberg family is not ready to pay for Olivers drive, as they know that he is fast and there is nothing to prove left. Maybe only matter of consistency can be questioned.
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7th October 2024, 21:10 #1135
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It might be as with all M-sport youngsters that Malcolm will want his cut in the future for developing Oliver and Solbergs think tha it would be unfair and don't want to share with him. But if they miss Fourmaux then will need someone course Sesks and Munster won't do the job.
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7th October 2024, 21:23 #1136
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I also think that Solbergs would expect MSport to pay Oliver to drive, while Malcolm expects the opposite. But yes if Fourmaux leaves that might change things.
Olivers consistency on gravel improved a lot this year. But he needs to drive more tarmac if he aims for full seat.
On a related note it would be somewhat ironic if, after being hailed as best Rally2 an seemingly using lot of money on Solberg+testing, Skoda would end with no titles this year (no ERC or WRC2). Last time something like this happened was in 2020. (C3 won WRC2 and ERC, i20 won WRC3).
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8th October 2024, 06:52 #1137
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8th October 2024, 12:25 #1138
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I think you mean how many titles Skoda won vs others?
Simple and somewhat stupid answer would be almost all of them as there is always someone doing most of the season in a different Rally2.
If you mean how many they won vs competition that really tried for championship it is still quite a few in the last few years, though Hyundai has a tendency to give up when results don't come early in the season
2023 - WRC2 vs Citroen (Rossel) and Hyundai (Lindholm, Suninen)
2022 - WRC2 vs Citroen (Rosser) and Hyundai (Suninen)
2021 - WRC2 vs Citroen (Østberg), MSport (Suninen and Hutunen) and Hyundai (Solberg) and ERC vs Citroen (Lukyanuk)
Though I do agree that some of the earlier years Skoda was doing as much or more testing as some teams in the top class while the other teams were all more client-style. But it was the Skoda dominance in that period (before 2020) that led those to run more "factory" like teams later.Last edited by mknight; 8th October 2024 at 12:30.
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9th October 2024, 09:42 #1139
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Hybrid power could yet be dropped for 2025...
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/hybri...-for-wrc-2025/
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9th October 2024, 11:29 #1140
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No hybrid, yes hybrid, no hybrid..
Weird that teams have to pay for faulty duracells..
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Ultimately, if they do decide to pull out, I would think they will have to go to Rally2 in the short term to ensure some sort of competitive championship. In the broader terms, the car industry is...
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