Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

[Fast Eddie WRC]

At least VW have seen sense...

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/ele...ctric-car-2027

[AndyRAC]

Europeans need to stop using the term SUV like it means anything other than being too fat/old/lazy/uncomfortable to crouch down into a car. Nothing wrong with being that, it's consumer's choice. But half the time they're neither sporty or utilitarian. Isn't there a better word?

Yeah, Sh1t Useless Vehicle........

[Sal yet again]

At least VW have seen sense...

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/ele...ctric-car-2027

And thats the way EVs are going to have to go to get take up especially in the UK unless the business model moves totally away from purchasing a car outright to leasing/personal contract hire. Not that many can afford north of £35k for a half decent leccy car.

[saco0o]

good. give me an electric wrc class with that new vw, the r5 3e, the honda E and the fiat 500 electric. id enjoy that class if they are 380hp 4wd and race just on sunday's stages
hehehe (but please dont change a thing in ERC ffs)

[WRCStan]

And thats the way EVs are going to have to go to get take up especially in the UK unless the business model moves totally away from purchasing a car outright to leasing/personal contract hire. Not that many can afford north of £35k for a half decent leccy car.

If you can't afford a half decent electric car, you can't afford to facilitate charging a cheap one at home. Unless, perfect car for young twenty-somethings living with Mum and Dad in their new build off a roundabout on the bypass miles away from anything. These can at least facilitate charging at home. Folk in terraces, flats and housing schemes of northern towns cannot.

Might flog a few, not saying it's not worth doing, they've got to do it for now with these blinkered governments until the u-turns come. I wouldn't say price alone is affecting take up.

Also, can we just agree now that these won't be £17k in 2027?

[becher]

Yeah, Sh1t Useless Vehicle........

I'm under the impression the correct term was Stupid Usless Vehicle. I kept wondering why the manufacturers so openly told the consumer that they'd be paying extra for such a shitty product.

[Humber]

How many events does Ogier have left with Toyota for the rest of the season?

Ford are sharing EV platforms with VW, so Ford likely has a small ev on the way too. If the losses in the US don't sink them.

[saco0o]

Ford are sharing EV platforms with VW, so Ford likely has a small ev on the way too. If the losses in the US don't sink them.

i think they built a ford explorer in europe on the vw platform already? but its a suv/crossover.

[saco0o]

this is so rad. i always think "ahh i should watch this championship" but i have no money right now to pay for their broadcast
https://youtu.be/H9vzeZBLv5c?feature=shared

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I'm under the impression the correct term was Stupid Usless Vehicle. I kept wondering why the manufacturers so openly told the consumer that they'd be paying extra for such a shitty product.

Manus are creating the 'demand' for SUVs by pandering to the human instinct that bigger is better.

(If you take two cars to a tribe that's never seen a car, they will choose the biggest of the two.)

It's a crazy situation - manufacturers should be doing everything to educate people that lighter and smaller cars are better for economy and for the planet.