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    Why not? If it allows at least 10-15 competitive entries for each rally, Rally 3 it is.

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    Is there any news since last week or will we be in the dark until the end of June?
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    Quote Originally Posted by macebig View Post
    Why not? If it allows at least 10-15 competitive entries for each rally, Rally 3 it is.
    Because we are talking about the flagship class of a commercial world championship.

    Be honest, would you rather pay for JWRC+ instead of the Rally1s and current top drivers?

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    Yes. If it allows every rally to be competitive for more than 2-3 drivers, brings back local surprises and helps young talents shine, 100%. Fancy cars mean nothing on their own. Look no further than WEC.LMP1s were much more advanced than the current LMDh/LMH combo. But, LMP1s ended up being a 2 car/1 team affair,while now there are close to 20 competitive entries from 5+ manufacturers and even more teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macebig View Post
    Yes. If it allows every rally to be competitive for more than 2-3 drivers, brings back local surprises and helps young talents shine, 100%. Fancy cars mean nothing on their own. Look no further than WEC.LMP1s were much more advanced than the current LMDh/LMH combo. But, LMP1s ended up being a 2 car/1 team affair,while now there are close to 20 competitive entries from 5+ manufacturers and even more teams.
    There'll never be a standalone series at JWRC level touring the globe. That doesn't even leave Europe, is only 5 events now, and is subsidised by the FIA. You think drivers would aspire to go from winning their national championships at Rally2 to go round the world in a Rally3? Or even stay at home and drop a class when WRC visits? It's not happening, WRC3 can show you that.

    WEC schmeck. Bored of hearing how it's got all the answers. And all this local driver crap too, it's simply not marketable however romantic/nostalgic it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WRCStan View Post

    WEC schmeck. Bored of hearing how it's got all the answers. And all this local driver crap too, it's simply not marketable however romantic/nostalgic it is.
    The WEC is far from perfect; but they addressed their issues.....and are reaping the rewards. You, and too many others have your heads in the sand.......

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by macebig View Post
    Look no further than WEC.
    But WEC did exact opposite of what you described. They opened the class as much as possible while keeping the costs low. It allowed either custom chassis or one of 4 spec chassis, they allowed to use any engine the manufacturers wants, they allowed manufacturers to choose if they want hybrid or not, but they limited aero, power inputs, etc.... Proposed 2026 Rally1 is somewhat similar to that.

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    Asking for new rules being based on a stock car in 2024 is completely ignorrant to the development in automotive. In the future even Rally2 and Rally3 rules will face troubles to find suitable base cars (but not only cars but also stock-based components, especially engines) and there is zero hope that some other manufacturer will repeat what Toyota did with the Yaris GR.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Asking for new rules being based on a stock car in 2024 is completely ignorrant to the development in automotive. In the future even Rally2 and Rally3 rules will face troubles to find suitable base cars (but not only cars but also stock-based components, especially engines) and there is zero hope that some other manufacturer will repeat what Toyota did with the Yaris GR.
    Are you saying that the Puma is unsuitable become Ford's future Rally 2/ 3 car ? It's the best-selling car in the UK and the trend for such crossovers is strong looking ahead.

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    I think mr. Sainz is right, skip Rally1

    If we look a little longer in time, FIA can make a safetycell-based Rally2 ruleset that can be the next generation or for teams that don't have a suitable car-option.

    https://rallyjournal.com/how-can-the...l07IVYVbzcW_dw

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