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    The more I read and think about all these new proposals the more it seems like a complete dog's breakfast. The new points system was confusing, but the rules for the cars and classes for the the next few years actually make it look simple and logical !

    I predict a total mess and a chaotic WRC until someone has the balls to decide on a proper set of straight-forward regulations and cars that actually make sense for both fans and manufacturers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    I'd add that even the speed of the works development is unsustainable for the customers. The privateers need stability and for them fewer uppgrades coming through the season is better.

    Also the upgrades are not just to buy something and install it. Most of the upgrades also require testing, building of new setups etc. It's not just a cost of the new part but a lot more.
    And you can add human resources too. How many people could be necessary to run full trothle a car that is developed to a works team? 3 mechanics anda a engineer are enough? I doubt.
    Three gears are enough!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyest View Post
    Only logical reason behind that i see reducing costs is maybe that engines are less on the limit and therefore there is less wear maybe?
    You mean in the sense that cars won't be buzzing the limiter on long straights but rather trundle along at lower revs in top gear thanks to a limiter?

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    Toyota's J-M Latvala on problems with the Rally1 cars... mainly cost and the gap to the Rally2s...

    https://www.pistonheads.com/news/mot...plicated/48266
    Last edited by Fast Eddie WRC; 6th March 2024 at 10:28.

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    autosport/motorsport.com podcast gravel notes on the new rules. interview with david richards.
    https://open.spotify.com/episode/1LO...iejfrPDZoLw%0A

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    https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/t...sive/10584887/

    Latvala thinks €400,000 is a bit optimistic, something like €500,000 is more realistic in his opinion. So basically back to the DS3 & Fiesta RS costs back in 2011.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/t...sive/10584887/

    Latvala thinks €400,000 is a bit optimistic, something like €500,000 is more realistic in his opinion. So basically back to the DS3 & Fiesta RS costs back in 2011.
    500 thousand Euro today equals only 375 thousand from 2011. There is an inflation.
    Last edited by Mirek; 13th March 2024 at 09:15.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    500 thousand Euro today equals only 375 thousand from 2011. There is an inflation.
    So that makes it even harder to achieve.
    Only you know your true potential.
    #42 #For_Craig

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    More from Latvala, this time on the Rally2 WRC Kit...


    "For the private teams, it could be a great idea. But, for the manufacturer who wants to build the car to win the World Rally Championship, do they want to see the car run out of the garage beating your product in which you’ve invested a lot of money? It raises questions,”

    “I know we are struggling with not so many cars in the main class and giving the opportunity to fine-tune the Rally2 car… I can see the positive – we have more cars, potentially, in the main class. But slowing down the Rally1 and boosting the Rally2? We need to find the balance.”

    https://rallyjournal.com/jari-matti-...ajor-question/

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