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Thread: WRC main class in 2025
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13th February 2024, 21:50 #711
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13th February 2024, 22:07 #712
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First of all what you suggest is more difficult than it sounds. Everything about Rally2 cars was designed for the power they have. Using larger restrictor will automatically lead either to low reliability or a need to redesign the drivetrain. Larger restrictor also needs new gearing because the peak power moves to higher RPM. All that is not not that cheap. Same goes for more aero which would require quite expensive changes to suspension and differentials (at least completely different setup options). For sure a top factory Rally2+ car at the end of the season would have little common with a standard customer Rally2 car.
You can be also sure that nobody will bother to rebuild the cars from Rally2 to Rally2+ from weekend to weekend. That idea completely failed with RRC and it will fail again. As Albert Einstein once said doing the same thing and expecting a different result is a sign of insanity.
The Rally2+ idea is a short term short-sighted fix to the current WRC. It would probably make one or two seasons more interesting but for a cost. The cost is very real potential damage to the national and regional rallying by rising cost of running the Rally2. I say don't fix what is not broken and the Rally2/R5 worked fantastic for what they were designed - for national and regional championships.
The other problem with this idea is that instead of focusing on bringing real new competitors it aims on taking some away from the WRC2/ERC and bringing them to WRC. Is that what we want or need? I say no.Last edited by Mirek; 13th February 2024 at 22:13.
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14th February 2024, 06:38 #713
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Say they have about 10 minutes after every stage max. With 2 minute intervals that's 5 rally cars and 5 service vans. Even when you take in delays, there's still plenty of places where there is enough space to park 30 cars or more. Even in the mountains there are carparks, townsquares and most importantly companies that have space outdoors or even indoors.
Remember they only do 4 different stages a day, so that's only 3 places you need to have.
And about rally2+. We all need to consider that people are really bad are estimating speed. So cars don't have to be fast, they have to look and mostly sound fast. If we were to put a porsche 6 cilinder or something simmilar in a rc2 that would probably make them look faster than rc1.
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14th February 2024, 08:22 #714
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The more I see debate around the various formulas the more I think Colin was ahead of the curve:
https://www.djm-motorsport.co.uk/McRaeR4.html
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14th February 2024, 08:56 #715
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14th February 2024, 09:22 #716
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14th February 2024, 09:24 #717
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How would one implement Hypercar style regulations into the WRC? The engines are fairly equal anyway?
Most of a rally cars performance comes from the chassis suspension no? Aero is hardly what makes a winning car isn't it?
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14th February 2024, 10:00 #718
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Redesigning chassis components, appendix for suspensions, suspension itself, more elaborated bumpers, more aero sessions to get more speed, new wheels design to get more air and optimize braking, new braking system and solutions, new air intakes to better funnel air to manage engine and overall car temperature, specific setups for flat tarmac, etc.
There's still loads of room in the regulations to let them spend millions and millions on things that help them to get 0.1s/km advantages. Opting for cheaper panels doesn't have any big influence on a team budget.
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14th February 2024, 11:40 #720
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Was just looking at Swedish rally 2002 entry list, 28 WRC cars. Oh those times…..
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