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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyest View Post
    I dont get it, by listening to commentators, thierry isnt the winner? but we will see it tomorrow? i understood that who is first on saturday night is winner
    Where on earth have you heard that lol?

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    So that's 28 constructor points each for Hyundai and Toyota, if they bank them?

    Nothing showing for Munster. Could he restart tomorrow and get 12, by being the fastest on the day and winning the PS? Or is scoring over for him?

    I think we should call Saturday points "Schrödinger's points", like the cat of uncertain fate.
    Last edited by Morte66; 27th January 2024 at 15:45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    it would have been enough just giving some (fewer) points after today, isntead of this "what if" classification.
    Question is: if Neuville retires tomorrow, will Ogier get 18 from today because he will be retroactively moved into 1st place? Or will he get 15, and nobody gets 18?

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    Quote Originally Posted by focus206 View Post
    Question is: if Neuville retires tomorrow, will Ogier get 18 from today because he will be retroactively moved into 1st place? Or will he get 15, and nobody gets 18?
    18, according to rally tv a moment ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morte66 View Post
    18, according to rally tv a moment ago.
    Wow... they managed to get even this decision wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morte66 View Post
    So that's 28 constructor points each for Hyundai and Toyota, if they bank them?

    Nothing showing for Munster. Could he restart tomorrow and get 12, by being the fastest on the day and winning the PS?
    Yes.

    Yes.
    "It's not sport!" - Gilles Panizzi

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    Everyone gets confused initially because everywhere else you get points directly for achieving something, so usually winner = most points. I think someone thought they were very clever when they came up with it but from my experience the truly clever people make simple elegant solutions.

    Anyway, so far in this rally I don't think it mattered how the points are given because the top 3 have given us a good show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seb_sh View Post
    Everyone gets confused initially because everywhere else you get points directly for achieving something, so usually winner = most points. I think someone thought they were very clever when they came up with it but from my experience the truly clever people make simple elegant solutions.

    Anyway, so far in this rally I don't think it mattered how the points are given because the top 3 have given us a good show.
    But there is a reset now as far as points are concerned. Munster and Neuville have an equal shot tomorrow.

    The confusion stems from the regs being published late on a Friday and before anybody official could get an explainer out, this forum and other socials had already read them and begun to spread false information, including from influential and trusted voices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WRCStan View Post
    But there is a reset now as far as points are concerned. Munster and Neuville have an equal shot tomorrow.

    The confusion stems from the regs being published late on a Friday and before anybody official could get an explainer out, this forum and other socials had already read them and begun to spread false information, including from influential and trusted voices.
    Even now, when people first hear about it they get it wrong. It's unintuitive and obtuse. Explaining it doesn't make it better, it just helps people get it.

    Also if these points were handed tomorrow and everything else kept the same Munster and Neuville would have the same shot tomorrow.

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    This talk about Saturdays points having 0 (zero) if retiring tomorrow, is that anything new?

    If you retired on Sundays anyway during the years, did you score anything back then? No
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
    Tommi Mäkinen, back in the years...

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