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20th December 2023, 05:27 #521
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My understand is that split 3 days race to 2 parts can give more chance to the drivers like Evans always retired in Friday or Saturday to compete with Rovanpera in standing.Mr Sunday can't imagine get 12 points in sunday in the past
In the same time if Rovanpera meet more pressure from other guys it will likely make him to make more mistakes also. So the new points system is not only to make Sunday more exciting but also make championship more exciting. Anyone agree?
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20th December 2023, 06:46 #522
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No.
My understanding is - if you are not really a dedicated rally fan and know all (current) rules, it is already too complicated to understand (immediately) - one day they drive in one order, another day in another order, and then there are powerstage points, etc.
Now, they create a complete mess with the points - the average rally fan probably is not that good in mathematics (sorry for the generalization), if it is too complicated to understand, they'll probably lose more interest and stay away from it.
It must be KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid).
About your example Rovanperä vs Evans - I think if someone can not handle the pressure, it is Evans, not Rovanperä. So it may also work vice-versa.
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20th December 2023, 08:42 #523
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Abiteboul named Hyundai president in management reshuffle
Cyril Abiteboul has been named as Hyundai Motorsport president as part of a senior management reshuffle at the Korean manufacturer.
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...ffle/10559480/#8 Ott Tänak - Martin Järveoja #8
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20th December 2023, 08:44 #524
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I'm going to have a conversation with myself here but what I said in that post was something the crossed through my mind based on that conversation. In reality you have to look at everything at high level first.
Somebody put it best earlier in the thread, first you have to decide what you want, where you want to go with the championship, then you can take measures to get there. In a word it's called vision. I think WRC is completely lacking vision and this rule shows it too, it's just a band-aid and could have uninteded secondary effects.
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20th December 2023, 10:49 #525
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Stop trying to appeal to those mythical casual fans........and just annoy the loyal fans who've supported the sport through thick and thin. More short term 'fixes' that don't address the problems.
If these clowns ran the WEC, they'd have panicked when it was just Toyota - we'd have few manufacturers, 3-4 hour identikit races, they'd drop Le Mans as it's too long, expensive for teams, fans, etc....and award points for a final hour fastest lap......
Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???
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20th December 2023, 15:12 #526
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As I told in the past, it's not about the gimmicks you want to put in the series, but it's time for the FIA and the Promoter to work on the best solution for all the stakeholders.
Manufacturers wants hybrid or EV or Hydrogen. Perfectly fine, if this helps improving the field and get more cars at the start ramp, then go for it. Either with BoP or whatever they figure out.
If a local Promoter wants to develop 3 Superspecials and 5 in-line, 6km fan-stages, then go for it. Not every rally needs to be a carnage, as long as we have a rally with enough mileage to be called a WRC event.
But it's FIA responsibility to:
1 - Develop a Budget Cap for the teams in order to make the whole season more affordable
2 - Work on the flexibility of the events themselves
Also, it's gonna be WRC Promoter's responsibility to be able to make the series more attractive in few steps:
1 - Bring partners for which you won't ask money for the sponsorship, but rather provide any service (I wrote about DHL providing dome freights for fly-away rallies to lower logistic costs), etc.
2 - Distribute the TV product in a more flexible way, providing more compact highlights and more free-to-air TV broadcasts, without asking sick prices as I learned in Italy for which NO ONE would buy. Some TV rights are out of this world and they better wake up on how the market changed. It's almost 2024, seriously.
3 - Heavily invest on "new fans", via Social Media, Twitch and E-Sports.
Regarding this last point: the average WRC fan is "aging" and thus is not going to purchase out of enthusiasm and artificial hype, but is rather doing its purchases more "wisely". Embracing those new potential fanbase would mean tons of merch sold, tons of interactions and actions on the web and a gold mine called E-Sports which can bring easily tens of tons of money for the growth of the series. On this side, everything is almost unexplored from the Promoter's POV. Quite a shame indeed.
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20th December 2023, 16:15 #527
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20th December 2023, 20:44 #528
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To follow up on this, today's Rally Dept newsletter explains the Working Group was the Task Force here, i.e setting the points scale. They then met with manufacturers and promoter (as reported) to discuss this and lots of things. The group's immediate focus is the WRC and will produce a paper, with recommendations going to the WRC Commission.
Which then needs the WMSC to approve changes.
So fair to say DR will be having a say in future, but still not clear all this was his idea.
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20th December 2023, 21:37 #529
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21st December 2023, 16:08 #530
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IMHO this way of thinking is fundamentally wrong.
You don't create a successful plan by cutting costs because the cost is very relative term absolutely relevant to the value. In other words a bad product is never cheap enough and a good product is never too expensive. FIA absolutely must work on the value of the product not trying to improve the cost of a bad one.
I know that my talk is cheap but I stand my ground that the WRC can not survive as a major sport without a radical redesign even when that will not be liked by part of its core fans.Last edited by Mirek; 21st December 2023 at 16:14.
Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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I wonder if there are already some team orders involved.
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