Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

**Rallyper** · 29th August 2023, 07:15

Originally Posted by skarderud

Sad news from sweden, a driver killed in a national rally.
Its the 5th(?) death this year in european rally, is it just unluck, or is it anything fundamental with rules, safety or just speed?

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Speed, speed, speed. I´ve been telling this for ages. It´s maybe time to get back on "square one". At least on national basis. Anyone can buy a monster even though they can´t drive.

**lmmjvss** · 29th August 2023, 22:00

Hmm only 6 entries for the W2RC race in Argentina. Dakar keeps atracting brands but the general championship has also been held by Toyota, basically. 5 of the 6 cars were Hilux. I guess we could start thinking on HOW TO MAKE Rally Monte Carlo bigger, to atract new teams, manufacturers and drivers, even if its just for one-offs. It would be really important for WRC as a whole, eh?

**the sniper** · 30th August 2023, 00:21

Originally Posted by lmmjvss

Hmm only 6 entries for the W2RC race in Argentina. Dakar keeps atracting brands but the general championship has also been held by Toyota, basically. 5 of the 6 cars were Hilux. I guess we could start thinking on HOW TO MAKE Rally Monte Carlo bigger, to atract new teams, manufacturers and drivers, even if its just for one-offs. It would be really important for WRC as a whole, eh?

Sorry, Dave Richards killed the concept of unique 'Events' and for some reason pretty much everyone involved in the WRC since has committed to the marriage with the cloverleaf, cookie cutter formula, until death do them part...

**AndyRAC** · 30th August 2023, 07:39

Originally Posted by the sniper

Sorry, Dave Richards killed the concept of unique 'Events' and for some reason pretty much everyone involved in the WRC since has committed to the marriage with the cloverleaf, cookie cutter formula, until death do them part...

I've often joked that if they ran the WEC, they'd want Le Mans run entirely over one weekend; practice, qualifying, and a 6 Hour race, like most of the other races........Unique events do work, we see it in other disciplines, but WRC only seems to look at the F1 model which is a poor example.

**lmmjvss** · 30th August 2023, 11:30

Interesting!
Yes, maybe WRC could have Monte Carlo as opem event. Like "4wd open, 2wd open". Maybe an electric class open? And run it. You crown these winners but pay point for the rally1,2,3 entries only for the overall championship. Like.. Pastrana wins monte carlo on that gymkhana Subaru. The first rally1 car (lets say Kalle) finished P2. Pastrana won the event, but Kalle gets the points for the victory in the Championship. Something like that.

I'd also go for at least two rally sprint on the calendar and two "enduro" rounds too. Need these stuff

**Jarek Z** · 10th September 2023, 09:06

Official video with Ford Mustang Mach-E Rally:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClaT2MnkYd4

**Managarium** · 10th September 2023, 11:51

So this weekend was Kumrovec rally in Croatia. Some stages and parts of some stages were used as sunday stages on Croatia Rally.

Without further redue, drunk civilian car driver stole the show.

Video is here https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/...a/2494171.aspx

Statement by the Organizing Committee is here https://www.facebook.com/rally.kumro...ref=embed_post

**satnav** · 10th September 2023, 19:08

There was a similar incident in a rally in Finland this weekend, Teemu posted on Twitter

https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/s...208225588?s=20

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 11th September 2023, 18:45

What’s it like inside a WRC service area ?

EVO is a fly on the wall inside the Toyota Gazoo Racing team at the 2023 Acropolis Rally Greece

https://www.evo.co.uk/rallying/20612...c-service-area

**Humber** · 12th September 2023, 05:17

Paddon driving the 700 horsepower Hyundai i20 at NZ's Ashley Forest Rallysprint, this weekend 16/17 September.

Livestream could be European insomniac time schedule. https://www.facebook.com/thepitstv and pits tv youtube.