[WRC] Rally Finland 2023

**Devillersvideo** · 6th August 2023, 21:07

Again a super weekend in Finland

Here is my video

https://youtu.be/vmzf9mPrOaY

**doubled1978** · 6th August 2023, 21:11

Originally Posted by Eli

Looking at this and the video from 2019, the Hyundai i20 Coupe seems a bit less tail happy than the i20 Hybrid Rally1, comparing them side by side.

Correct, the old car had a solid rear end and struggled with the front, actually that trait goes back through the 2016 car and the one previous. It’s only this one that is the opposite.
I suspect, that it’s why Neuville became so adept at the handbrake driving style to help the car turn….maybe.

**seb_sh** · 6th August 2023, 21:41

Originally Posted by doubled1978

Correct, the old car had a solid rear end and struggled with the front, actually that trait goes back through the 2016 car and the one previous. It’s only this one that is the opposite.
I suspect, that it’s why Neuville became so adept at the handbrake driving style to help the car turn….maybe.

he was asked in Estonia in one of the intermediate press conferences about the handbrake thing, he said it's not his style but it's needed to get the car to turn

**becher** · 6th August 2023, 22:13

Originally Posted by seb_sh

he was asked in Estonia in one of the intermediate press conferences about the handbrake thing, he said it's not his style but it's needed to get the car to turn

Shows the state of rallying journalism, this was known years ago.

**paddocknews** · 7th August 2023, 06:13

WRC Rally Finland 2023 | FLAT OUT, PURE SOUND & BIG JUMPS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJFj3K7fC_8

**mknight** · 7th August 2023, 08:39

Originally Posted by Jarek Z

No, there is no trophy for winning RC2 class and never was. There is a trophy for winning WRC2. Everything is fine here. Pajari is the winner, not Solberg.

Yep, Pajari had little to gain from trying to fight Solberg from mid-saturday.
Comparably Solberg had nothing to lose by crashing, in terms of points.

Solberg did a great job, but they were not really in the same competition.

**mknight** · 7th August 2023, 08:45

Originally Posted by doubled1978

Correct, the old car had a solid rear end and struggled with the front, actually that trait goes back through the 2016 car and the one previous. It’s only this one that is the opposite.
I suspect, that it’s why Neuville became so adept at the handbrake driving style to help the car turn….maybe.

This year in Finland Neuville seemed to drive with much less handbrake and sideways than Suninen and much less than he used to be with the old car.

There was also a detailed comparison between Suninen and Katsuta on Alllive where they showed how Suninen used handbrake and scandi flick a lot. Can be the car, the settings or his style. Remember Suninen got even openly criticized by Malcolm for driving too sideways (think it was after Sweden, not sure if 2020 or 2021?).

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 7th August 2023, 10:26

Originally Posted by TypeR

Is it really so, that if you don't race for points, then no trophies for drivers?

I mean Solberg's post in Instagram, where they showered their own champagne and jumped into lake

Doesn't matter it's Solberg this time, let it be whoever, but if you are fastest in your class and win it, then it is a shame not being given a trophy for that..

Racing for pointa should only be for formalities, but if you race fair n square in certain class and win it, then it should also be awarded.

It was Solberg's own fault for not registering for WRC2.

That is the competition to win here and if you want points and a trophy. Just driving for fun with no pressure is not the same.

As he admitted at the end of the rally, he f**ked up.

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**doubled1978** · 7th August 2023, 14:00

Originally Posted by mknight

This year in Finland Neuville seemed to drive with much less handbrake and sideways than Suninen and much less than he used to be with the old car.

There was also a detailed comparison between Suninen and Katsuta on Alllive where they showed how Suninen used handbrake and scandi flick a lot. Can be the car, the settings or his style. Remember Suninen got even openly criticized by Malcolm for driving too sideways (think it was after Sweden, not sure if 2020 or 2021?).

Yeah, this years car wouldn’t want to be unsettled by using the handbrake as its natural tendency is to do that by itself, but it’s too much and they don’t trust it.
Sordo speaks about it a lot at stage ends.